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Emy1501

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Drifting off topic slightly and a bit contentious but there is a trend to secure a variety of diagnosis and special treatment for children by certain parents. The whole ADHD issue is contentious and thats not i wish to kick start a debate on but i will say this...I know of a family where both adults are working,they have a nice big semi detached home in a nice area,run two cars,take foreign holidays etc etc..the usual picture but becuase they have a child with a diagnosis of ADHD,they suddenly get benefits AND..get this recently were offered a brand new heating system under warmfront as the child was apparently on a qualifying benefit..!

Now then...what is the link between a child having a diagnosis of a contentious condition and the long suffering taxpayer;
(a) paying out benefits becuase of it
(b) the taxpayer buying a new heating system becuase of it?

My child is likely to be ASD not sure about ADHD and the relevance of the heating system but there are many costs that go into looking after our son at the moment that we do not need to spend on our other son that has no problems.

Therefore I cannot see why people should not be helped with the burden of bringing a disabled child who is likely to need full support for the rest of his life. As the costs are stuggle even if you are working.

C_Mababejive

Emy1501 wrote: »

My child is likely to be ASD not sure about ADHD and the relevance of the heating system but there are many costs that go into looking after our son at the moment that we do not need to spend on our other son that has no problems.

Therefore I cannot see why people should not be helped with the burden of bringing a disabled child who is likely to need full support for the rest of his life. As the costs are stuggle even if you are working.

Sorry..not familiar with ASD...had to wiki.
No further comment on that.

I will say that the person i know with the ADHD child does not have any apparent further expenditure i.e the child goes to school normally,eats,sleeps,communicates etc...so i am at a loss as to what the extra money is for.

I would go further and say that we should examine the reasons why the state should have a system of giving out money to people simply becuase of a diagnosis of something or other. Thats just life isnt it?

I am almost perpetually stressed and knackered mainly due to personal circumstances and hard work but no one pays me any attention or sends me (extra) money..and indeed,i doubt i would get much attention if i collapsed in the street save for the hope that some kindly soul would offer succour rather than assuming i was a drunk/druggie/whatever...

SingleSue

DLA is given on the basis of need not diagnosis....hence why some people with a mental illness will get DLA and others will not, or some with arthritis will get DLA and others not.

A diagnosis is not required to claim a disability allowance.

Another example - I am riddled with arthritis but do not claim because my need for help is not at the moment required (in my own view), whereas someone else with arthritis in the same places as me may well be bed bound or at the very least, unable to walk more than 50m unaided or without severe pain.

SingleSue

Graham, I think I have explained my reasons behind the reaction and that it may possibly have been an over reaction on my part.

It was NOT the opening post on the thread which caused the upset so much but some (and not all) of the following posts. It was just pure bad luck on my part that I read the thread after what has been a pretty stressful couple of weeks, where I was already feeling a load of self hate for the position I am in and that made me hyper sensitive to any criticism made regarding benefit claimants.

paybacktime2008

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Sorry..not familiar with ASD...had to wiki.
No further comment on that.

I will say that the person i know with the ADHD child does not have any apparent further expenditure i.e the child goes to school normally,eats,sleeps,communicates etc...so i am at a loss as to what the extra money is for.

I would go further and say that we should examine the reasons why the state should have a system of giving out money to people simply becuase of a diagnosis of something or other. Thats just life isnt it?

I am almost perpetually stressed and knackered mainly due to personal circumstances and hard work but no one pays me any attention or sends me (extra) money..and indeed,i doubt i would get much attention if i collapsed in the street save for the hope that some kindly soul would offer succour rather than assuming i was a drunk/druggie/whatever...

Go to your GP. Get a diagnosis of depression or Anxiety and then you can claim DLA-use it to pay for a cleaner.

See..that is what will happen over time. People who would never normally claim will do just because they can and are hacked off with some other people getting it all.


ASD is by it's very definition a spectrum disorder. I don't want to open a can of worms but I know at least 2 mums who are pushing for a diagnosis purely for the cash, most proffesionals working with those families do not believe the kids are on the spectrum rather they are victims of attachment disorders/poor parenting. And yes I know a lot about Autism and I know how crippling it can be to individuals and families. BUT BUT BUT there are people out there doing this.....perhaps a more civilised form of the beggars who cut off their kids arms so they will get more money. Nastiness and greed is everywhere in every culture, just In england you can do it with the governments blessing.

Graham_Devon

SingleSue wrote: »

Graham, I think I have explained my reasons behind the reaction and that it may possibly have been an over reaction on my part.
.

Sorry, didn't realise there was another page, so my apologies.

I'm going to delete my post.

Emy1501

paybacktime2008 wrote: »

Go to your GP. Get a diagnosis of depression or Anxiety and then you can claim DLA-use it to pay for a cleaner.

See..that is what will happen over time. People who would never normally claim will do just because they can and are hacked off with some other people getting it all.


ASD is by it's very definition a spectrum disorder. I don't want to open a can of worms but I know at least 2 mums who are pushing for a diagnosis purely for the cash, most proffesionals working with those families do not believe the kids are on the spectrum rather they are victims of attachment disorders/poor parenting. And yes I know a lot about Autism and I know how crippling it can be to individuals and families. BUT BUT BUT there are people out there doing this.....perhaps a more civilised form of the beggars who cut off their kids arms so they will get more money. Nastiness and greed is everywhere in every culture, just In england you can do it with the governments blessing.

What benefits are you going claim simply because your childs been diagnosed with ASD? You do not get DLA because your childs got ASD. Also its a long process to get your kid diagnosed with ASD. How do these people get their child to perform infront of the clinical psychiatrist and psychologist?.

paybacktime2008

You are entitled to DLA if your child has ASD. I don't know the 'magic' words you put on the form but I know some people who do. I'll ask if you like?

SingleSue

My middle son has Aspergers (an ASD), he does not receive DLA because he is pretty settled at school, so his needs are less than his brother who also has an ASD (complex autism plus loads of other stuff).

So a diagnosis of an ASD does not automatically mean an award of disabilitiy living allowance.

paybacktime2008

http://www.asd-forum.org.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=20219

This might help.