Weezl and friends Phase 2 -giving it a whirl for Shirl! Testing meal plan for a month

weezl74

grandma247 wrote: »

We had the cloddies and they were very good. I added another half tsp of garam masala and a large pinch of powdered mustard. after tasting one first. It is a good way of disguising a veg that is sometimes disliked by children. My ten year old liked them and he does not eat swede normally.
If I were making them to be filling I would leave them as they are but I usually prefer my fritters,veg pancakes,bhajis etc less doughey so I would double the amount of veg.

I added quite a bit more water to get a dropping consistency and I used a dessert spoonful for each one. I got 12 out of the mixture.

thank you this is great and very helpful feedback

how many would be a good snack? would 2 put in a lunchbox to stave off a mid-morning hunger pang be adequate do you feel?

I love that we can say how it disguises veg that folk don't like

Frankie I'll be very interested in how the pate goes down with your family, they are used to meat in sarnies, so it should be lots more normal

Incidentally, I've removed the marrowfats from planner 3, so that might make it more appealing for all at chez Frankie done in an informal way

grandma247

Weezle 2 would be ok as a snack. We had them with our roast dinner and they were very nice dipped in the gravy, I just put them all on a plate in the middle of the table and everyone helped themselves.

artybear

Morning guys and gals,

I am not working today yay!!!:j So trying to sort my life out (oh and complete this damn essay, if anyone knows anything about the formation of architects as a profession feel free to chip in!:cool:).

I have a few questions, this bacon and onion pudding thingamajig is to be steamed in a slow-cooker, I dont have one of these but presume it could be done in an oven, any tips?

Also how big are your pudding basins, as I will have to fashion one out of whatever is lying in the kitchen at the mo?

Could I cook it this morning and it be ok for later or does it need to be done just before?

Hmmm.....all the recipes for the other planner look scrumptious and I will be testing them. Having been a veggie for nearly ten years until a bacon sandwich tempted me to the darkside:eek: the absence of meat is no problem for me and mr arty is not fussed really.

However the concept of vegan planner has been a sticking point with us, mr arty truly believes this cannot be a healthy diet so I was wondering if any veggie/vegans or anyone knowledgeable on this would be able to give me a brief overview on why it is perfectly healthy to be a vegan? His main issue is protein intake but Im sure it must be fine or all the vegans in the world would be ill all the time. :rotfl:

Sorry for the post of questions, if I can do anything for anyone else in return let me know.
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weezl74

artybear wrote: »

Morning guys and gals,

I am not working today yay!!!:j So trying to sort my life out (oh and complete this damn essay, if anyone knows anything about the formation of architects as a profession feel free to chip in!:cool:).

I have a few questions, this bacon and onion pudding thingamajig is to be steamed in a slow-cooker, I dont have one of these but presume it could be done in an oven, any tips?

Also how big are your pudding basins, as I will have to fashion one out of whatever is lying in the kitchen at the mo?

Could I cook it this morning and it be ok for later or does it need to be done just before?

Hmmm.....all the recipes for the other planner look scrumptious and I will be testing them. Having been a veggie for nearly ten years until a bacon sandwich tempted me to the darkside:eek: the absence of meat is no problem for me and mr arty is not fussed really.

However the concept of vegan planner has been a sticking point with us, mr arty truly believes this cannot be a healthy diet so I was wondering if any veggie/vegans or anyone knowledgeable on this would be able to give me a brief overview on why it is perfectly healthy to be a vegan? His main issue is protein intake but Im sure it must be fine or all the vegans in the world would be ill all the time. :rotfl:

Sorry for the post of questions, if I can do anything for anyone else in return let me know.
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hey arty

Oven steaming is a bit hit and miss and will leave wet greasy streaky stains down landlady's oven, so I'd say do it on the hob the main thing is not to let it boil dry. Ideally start by finding a pan that's got a lid but is large enough to contain a pudding basin and still have it's lid put on. Then fill the pan with enough water so that when the pudding basin sits in it it's up to about half way up the sides of the basin. cover your basin with foil/cloth/grease proof paper, pleating it so it can rise at the top. put lid on and put pan on hot enough for the water to be at a slow boil. Return to it every 45 mins to check it hasn't boiled dry and top up with water where needed. (learn about architects while the 45 mins are elapsing!)

Vegan-wise, I know murrell will give a much better answer, but my quick thought is to say that there's as much protein in planner 3's shopping list as there was in planner 1. This was easy actually, I wasn't even thinking about protein particularly, just added nuts and pulses to give each meal a bit of extra 'body'

hth?

Allegra

weezl74 wrote: »

hope your head isn't too sore this morning Allegra;)

I'm good, thanks - I didn't mix too many metaphors last night

Of course there is no rush with the planner 3 - I just wanted to point out that we are all looking forward to it and keen to test it out :j

artybear

Thanks weezl-hmmm...it seems a abit technical today for me. I have a massive to do list and really want to get it all ticked off (more that I want lots of ticks than I really want to do the stuff lol)

So I may well swop that with another meal and leave it until the end of the week as I will have more time. Is that alright weezl?

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Allegra

artybear wrote: »

Morning guys and gals,

I am not working today yay!!!:j So trying to sort my life out (oh and complete this damn essay, if anyone knows anything about the formation of architects as a profession feel free to chip in!:cool:).

I'm not working today either. Well, not paid work Sadly, that means that I am unable to offer any assistance with the architects. Oh, how will you ever manage.... :rotfl:

I would steam bacon and onion pudding on the hob - do you have any pyrex dishes, or a pyrex measuring jug ? A 1pt jug would be perfect, but any smallish ovenproof dish would probably do the job.

As for vegan diet, we have knowledgable vegans about (Murrel ! Where are you ? ), but from my own previous experience, nuts and pulses, which feature strongly on the shopping list, provide sufficient aminoacids for the body to fashion its own proteins. In fact, some experts argue that it is easier for a human body to get the necessary protein from vegetable aminoacids as with animal protein the body apparently has to break it down first before refashioning it into human protein - I have no scientific background though so don't know how correct this is, but it always sounded convincing to me

SusanC_2

weezl74 wrote: »

Ah! I don't think I made it clear enough exactly how subsistence-level this is really did I? :rotfl:

Also, I hope this doesn't offend anyone on here, but I kinda think it's a weird non-negotiable WHEN IN REAL HARDSHIP. Please hear me out!

What I mean is that starving people will eat almost anything. And do almost anything.

If people were saying, the health of my children is my non-negotiable. Then I can see that, and I think you do see examples of this in famine situations where a mother will feed a baby to the point of her own starvation.

I am really suprised by someone who would lay down their life for an animal though.

And I don't mean to sound animal hating by saying that. Just that I value humans more!

eeep! I expect everyone will throw rocks at me now *ducks*

*sneaks back in*

I don't think anyone was looking at it as a choice between starving/dying or eating battery eggs. I think possibly the way the survey was worded (which was unavoidable without a huge introduction which would have put people off voting) meant that people were looking at battery eggs vs. eating meat, having fresh fruit etc. rather than battery eggs vs. starving. I know I stated on the survey thread that I would rather have less or no meat than have battery eggs and I imagine others were looking at it from an "I'd cut back on other things first" point of view too. I also supsect that many people who selected that option would rather use planner 1 and spend a bit extra for free range eggs than use planner 2 and have no meat or eggs and be within the £100 budget. If anyone was geuinely so destitute that they couldn't afford to spend the extra for free range (which I think is unlikely) then at that point I expect they would be prepared to have the battery eggs.

It has also just occurred to me that planner 3 fits the requirement of no battery eggs and has the added bonus of the fresh fruit to make up for the lack of meat/eggs so that would be another option for non-battery-egg-people.

hornetgirl

I found myself unexpectedly with a bit of time on my hands this afternoon, so decided to try making the no-knead bread.

Here's the result...



It's not all that tall, but it's a lovely golden colour and seems to have a nice crisp crust. Can't wait for it to cool down enough for me to try a piece!

artybear

hornetgirl :j:j:j:j:j:j:j:j::j:j:j