Weezl and friends Phase 2 -giving it a whirl for Shirl! Testing meal plan for a month

Allegra

Bread, carrot loaf and calzone estimated timings:

10 min for flour warming/yeast activating
10 min for dough mixing and dividing, searching for tins, cursing because you forgot to grate carrot
5 min to grate the carrot
~*~ Here is where the calzone timeline diverges ~*~
BREAD TIMELINE:
40 min to prove the bread and the carrot loaves
25 min to bake the bread and the carrot loaves
CALZONE TIMELINE:
40 min first proving (incorporates 15-20 min sauce making)
5 min rolling out
15 min bechamel sauce making
5 min spreading the filling and trying to get the seams nice and neat and leak-proof
~*~ Here is where the two timelines converge again ~*~
Bread out, calzone in, 8-10 mins baking

Any help ?

weezl74

juliette, sorry, please can you also remind me whose permission I didn't get for the batch cooking guide?

weezl74

I'll go back and delete my ranty bit now, sorry chaps!

artybear

weezl74 wrote: »

do people think we should include the chic pea time for a cherry picking newbie type kitty?

I do, I know it seems obvious but to make it in one day does not take 5 minutes, You have to soak for 12 hours then simmer for two.

Julimk

This is the yes list:

annie123/ AT (London)/ yes
esmf73/ EF (England)/ yes
Gigervamp/ JP (South Wales)/ yes
greenbee/ GB (Hampshire)/ yes
Julimk/ JK (Essex)/ yes
Kitchenbunny/ KB/ yes
maryb/ MB (London)/ yes
NJW69/ NW (England)/ yes
whatawit/ CC/ yes
Winged one/ GO’C (Ireland)/ yes

No reply from livalot or Penelope Penguin.

SusanC_2

weezl74 wrote: »

kitty has 1kg of spinach, 500g of each of red and green lentils, 18 cans peeled plum tomatoes, 150g yeast, 4535g frozen peas.

If anyone gets to it before me, then folate amounts for the above items would be fan-flippin-tastic (clicking on the above hyperlinks will take you to a table saying the folate value of each)

By my reckoning they give 777mcg/person/day for the remaining 4.8 days. Assuming you've used a figure of 400mcg/person/day for the 26.2 days (thta's the figure I have for myself from USDA) that gives an average over 31 days of 458mcg/person/day.

This figure does not include any chickpeas, beans, peanuts/other nuts which are used and they are also high in folate. Is there a full Kitty shopping list because high folate (1000mcg/day) can mask B12 deficiency:

Large amounts of folic acid can mask the damaging effects of vitamin B12 deficiency by correcting the megaloblastic anemia caused by vitamin B12 deficiency URL="http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitaminB12_pf.asp#en3"]3[/URL],[URL="http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitaminB12_pf.asp#en5"]5[/URL without correcting the neurological damage that also occurs URL="http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitaminB12_pf.asp#en1"]1[/URL],[URL="http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitaminB12_pf.asp#en31"]31[/URL. Moreover, preliminary evidence suggests that high serum folate levels might not only mask vitamin B12 deficiency, but could also exacerbate the anemia and worsen the cognitive symptoms associated with vitamin B12 deficiency URL="http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitaminB12_pf.asp#en6"]6[/URL],[URL="http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitaminB12_pf.asp#en11"]11[/URL. Permanent nerve damage can occur if vitamin B12 deficiency is not treated. For these reasons, folic acid intake from fortified food and supplements should not exceed 1,000 mcg daily in healthy adults URL="http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitaminB12_pf.asp#en5"]5[/URL.

(From http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitaminB12_pf.asp)

SusanC_2

PS I used wiki figures (as that's what it appears you wanted) except for tinned tomatoes where I used the Danish food databank as there wasn't a wiki figure for them.

SusanC_2

On the variation in fruit, I would probably assume something like three bananas, two apples and two citrus fruits per week for your caluclation purposes and state somewhere that you have used this assumption.

weezl74

SusanC wrote: »

Is there a full Kitty shopping list because high folate (1000mcg/day) can mask B12 deficiency:

(From http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitaminB12_pf.asp)

so we just need to make sure there's not in excess of 4000mcg/day, so
more than 124000mcg total?

weezl74

SusanC wrote: »

PS I used wiki figures (as that's what it appears you wanted) except for tinned tomatoes where I used the Danish food databank as there wasn't a wiki figure for them.

thank you

SusanC wrote: »

On the variation in fruit, I would probably assume something like three bananas, two apples and two citrus fruits per week for your caluclation purposes and state somewhere that you have used this assumption.

oh dear! I have given her 3 possibles but it's more like 5 citrus, 1 banana and 1 pear unless she goes to the market.:o (all smartprice, all hand picked for largest number of items in a bag)

Is this a deal breaker? I'm giving her 10p per person per day for fruit (but was actually hoping to go lower!)