Weezl and friends Phase 2 -giving it a whirl for Shirl! Testing meal plan for a month

weezl74

lesley, your wisdom would be appreciated here!


about the bread could you please try out a couple of things on your version?

does it help if I up the portion size of the hummus and only have it as a meal, and lose the snack pieces of bread? What would the shortfall be then?

about having the hummus on carrot loaf, that would mean it being more of a savoury loaf, but currently it's as sweet as the carrot cake, and is it's equivalent, so that won't work!

erm any other thoughts on reducing the bread demand?

weezl74

one thought:

as there are so many snacks, how about kitty's lunches are a 2 slice of bread sandwich? (rather than a 4)

so her day might look like:

brekkie: 2 slices of toast and brazil nut spread

mid morning: slice of sweet carrot loaf

Lunch: tomato houmous sandwich, 1 piece of fruit

mid afternoon: Red pepper pasta

supper/pudding: slice of ginger loaf

how are people feeling about that?:)

domesticgoddess789

Hi all

You lot don't half talk!! How many pages did you write yesterday?!Only just catching up now. My exam is over and done with now:j so will crack on with getting the alternatives thingy done as soon as I can.

weezl74

susan and anyone else who thought it wouldn't be the same kind of fruit daily for kitty:

hello:D, can you say a bit more about that? ie how much variety would they be expecting? Can it be the same on 6 days of the week and just one different fruit one day of the week?

or would it not be acceptable do we think?

Hoping some people can get into the role of kitty and help me out here!

weezl74

hope the exam went well pinkhayley

weezl74

ok so here's my dilemma:

I really need some more bread for kitty.

We're all spent up.

So, I can either nick back some from the fruit budget, hence my question above...

or more radically lose a marmite jar.

marmite jar loss would mean having a rethink on our views on vitamin B12.

I am quite disappointed because I really wanted to get kitty's planner published as soon as possible because my workload will decrease massively for CFR after that (not that you guys will experience a difference it's just that the behind the scenes stuff is massive). This is because DH has been taking a lot of the strain with the boys with me keeping saying, I really think we're nearly there! and the like.

I just don't want to exploit his lovely nature too much!

weezl74

ok I'm not sure who's around nutrition-wise at the mo, so I'll just type out where I've got to with B12 and then maybe someone who gets chance could pick up the baton and run with it a little further:

If there is adequate FOLATE, then the B12 requirement is vastly reduced if not removed due to the many years supply stored in the liver and to the ability of folate to perform equivalent functions in the body.

So do we have adequate folate?

100g ready oats provides 85% of RDA of folate therefore 117.64g of ready oats is one persons RDA so for 4 of them they'd need 470g ready oats, so the 7 boxes is 11.2 days supply.

8g of yeast extract has 100% RDA folate, so 32g for all 4 of them, so 7.5 days supply per jar.

we currently have 3 jars, but I'm really looking to reduce to 2 jars, so that would give a further 15 days supply of folate.

So that's a total of 26.2 days supply.

So what I really need to know is does kitty's plan contain enough folate everywhere else.

Arty was the last one to post kitty's shopping list, so if anyone wants to have a look at her post and suggest any good sources of FOLATE that would be great

weezl74

from wikipedia folate article:

Certain foods are very high in folate:

• Leafy vegetables such as spinach, asparagus, turnip greens,
• Legumes such as dried or fresh beans, peas and lentils
• Liver and liver products also contain high amounts of folate.
• baker's yeast,
• fortified grain products (pasta, cereal, bread), Some breakfast cereals (ready-to-eat and others) are fortified with 25% to 100% of the recommended dietary allowance (RDA) for folic acid.
• sunflower seeds

Moderate amounts:

• certain fruits (orange juice, canned pineapple juice, cantaloupe, honeydew melon, grapefruit juice, banana, raspberry, grapefruit, strawberry) and vegetables (beets, corn, tomato juice, vegetable juice, broccoli, brussels sprouts, romaine lettuce, bok choy),[8] beer.[9]

kitty has 1kg of spinach, 500g of each of red and green lentils, 18 cans peeled plum tomatoes, 150g yeast, 4535g frozen peas.

If anyone gets to it before me, then folate amounts for the above items would be fan-flippin-tastic (clicking on the above hyperlinks will take you to a table saying the folate value of each)

Allegra

weezl74 wrote: »

ok so here's my dilemma:

I really need some more bread for kitty.

We're all spent up.

So, I can either nick back some from the fruit budget, hence my question above...

or more radically lose a marmite jar.

Is that even if you cut bread allowance for lunches down to two slices ?

weezl74

yeast contains 2340 mcg of folate per 100g so I'm now convinced we have adequate folate.

The question is, if we therefore reduce the b12 on the strength of that, will our critics have a field day, or are we happy saying we have met health targets?

Seems I'm chatting to myself today, so I'll pause for a bit