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Lois_Lane

vixarooni wrote: »

Would this maybe sound a little wrong...If youre quiet overweight, a slight adjustment in eating habbits and exercise are going to create a bigger result than someone who is relatively an ok weight to start with, thus meaning that the overweight person has more positivity to carry them through to continue to lose weight but not in the other person? So therefore more willpower and larger adjustments would be required for the ok weighted person to lose that extra few pounds. Just had a realisation that i could have done my dissertation on something like that, would make quite a good bit of research.

Please agree or dissagree!

Hope everyone has had a good bank holiday, regardless of the cold yucky weather. Blimming hail stones here in kent!!

I think I agree with what you're saying, and I guess it's all to do with relativity, i.e. a person who is only 10 stone and wants to be 9 stone only has 10% of their weight to lose, while someone who is 20 stone and wants to be 10 stone has 50% to lose. It should follow that the larger person could lose more weight by making changes to their lifestyle than the smaller person making the same change.

LL

p.s. lovely weather north of the border!

PepPop

Just a quick post from me as I'm off to bed in a minute. I have just been given the biggest kick up the backside possible. I had a realisation moment yesterday morning and got OH to take a pic of me in my swimming costume to print off and put it on the fridge. OMG :eek::eek: did it work!!! So much so that I dug out my gym stuff and headed straight there! We don't have any full length mirrors in the flat so it's the first time I've really looked at myself objectively - SCARY! I'm gonna take a picture every Sunday until I get to my goal weight.

Eric_Pisch

vixarooni wrote: »

Would this maybe sound a little wrong...If youre quiet overweight, a slight adjustment in eating habbits and exercise are going to create a bigger result than someone who is relatively an ok weight to start with, thus meaning that the overweight person has more positivity to carry them through to continue to lose weight but not in the other person? So therefore more willpower and larger adjustments would be required for the ok weighted person to lose that extra few pounds. Just had a realisation that i could have done my dissertation on something like that, would make quite a good bit of research.

Please agree or dissagree!

Hope everyone has had a good bank holiday, regardless of the cold yucky weather. Blimming hail stones here in kent!!

Interesting, the heavier you are the higher your BMR, your going to be eating a lot of crap and a lot of it so changing a few things should have results, the difficulties are you are used to eating huge amounts of food and you can not retrain that in a week or two it takes about 3 months to get back into the habit of eating normal size portions. Then you have to deal with the issue of being hyper unfit with appalling muscle tone, exercise can be extremely difficult and often painful so keeping motivated for that is extremely hard at the start (look how hard it is here for people who are only moderately over weight to get motivated to exercise). Its extremely easy to crash the metabolism and end up STS or start to get weight gain which i think is a big part of demotivation and weight loss failure for many people. Then in the long term as the weight comes off your going to have to deal with a drastically reduced BMR (my BMR is 679 cals a day reduced from my starting point) which means weight loss will become harder, the realistic way to deal with this is to increase the metabolism and the amount of exercise done over time to compensate for this reduction, not an easy thing to do.

Then there's the issue of sagging skin, its possible to end up with 3-4 stone of excess skin which will mess up BMI calcs, targets etc and it can only be dealt with by surgery ...

you would also have to consider that is it right to do a comparison based on lb per lb or rather would it be better to do a comparison on % of body mass lost

then its also very easy for someone whose only slightly over weight to get themselves extremely fit (subject to no medical restrictions) and start doing long term endurance training and events which could see there BMR shoot up to the 4000-6000 cal range

but certainly in the initial period it should be possible to have better performance in weight loss in terms of straight weight but maybe not in terms of %, i think the system shock when weight loosing for someone who is gorging themselves on crap day in day out and hardly every moving is going to be a billion times harder to deal with than the slightly over weight person.

take someone whose goal weight is 100lbs

if there starting weight is 300lbs then they need to loose 3lbs to loose 1% body mass, if there 10% overweight (110lbs) they need only loose 1.1lb to achieve the same 1% body mass lose.

then i suspect most people who only have a small amount of weight to loose are not very motivated and "cheat" a lot, not mentioning any names

the other way to look at it who has the hardest journey, which would you pick 200lbs weight loss or 10lbs

de1amo

i have analysed how green tea affects my eating--it cleans the pallet and stops the lingering flavour of what i have just eaten--i stop salivating for more!!

Vixstar

The liquid will also help fill you up a little more

Eric_Pisch

Vixstar wrote: »

The liquid will also help fill you up a little more

the best way to feel stated for a long period of time is to eat food that's suspended in water like soup, the stomach treats it as thou its a solid meal even thou its really a liquid, its a proven trick

of course its important to eat the right amount or you will just end up in starvation mode or even worse consuming your own muscle and organs..

de1amo

i just discovered how energy sapping housework is--i hung 4 sets of full length heavy curtains and feel so drained now--despite this fitness kick i feel weak!-i have sorted my leg problem out it appears -after my last workout i did a full stretching session with emphasis on my legs--i am sure back in the uk that is what they tell you to do after a workout??--it seems to have done the trick--touch wood.
i often have soup in my sugar low period around the old fashioned 'tea time'4,30.--along with some nuts and a banana.

victory

I have done the sums and 3lb went from that 6lb gain, leaving 7lb to go, so still 1/2 stone heavier so please can you re set the chart to 7lb to loose please:D

de1amo

is there a target to loose catagory then--i am now 78,5kgs and my target is 70kgs so JUST another 18.7lbs lol-so 18,7lbs to loose

Eric_Pisch

never rains but it poors

poxy treadmills blown up ....

under warranty at least but i bet it takes a month to get sorted ...

hopefully im in good enough condition now to be able to resistance train every other day so that may compensate a bit