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CWCDiver

dfh wrote: »

Stop being brain washed.It is a well known fact that migrants get benefits the moment they enter this country.Read the Daily Mail if you want to know the truth.The get to stay in mansions,get free phones and cars and an initial 100000 pound grant paid for by us tax payers.

Wow what a totally moronic post, benefits are not paid straight away, or in many cases not at all.

marleyboy

I dont think I mentioned an annual increase rate ANYWHERE, the facts I have offered are comparing LEGAL to ILLEGAL immigration in the UK, however if you read the figures you can equate the increasing rate annually I guess.

London, June 30, 2005 (PTI) An estimated 570,000 illegal immigrants are living in the UK, a new Home Office study indicated

More than 3,300 were picked up in just an eight month period in 2008, compared with only 1,400 in an entire 12-month period in 2006/07.

10th March 2009 As many as 947,000 illegal immigrants could be living in Britain, more than double a previous Home Office estimate.

A study by the London School of Economics found evidence of a massive surge in the illegal population since 2001.

These statistics represent only Illegal immigrants for those years. For Legal Immigration the statistics are....

In 2003, there was a net inflow of 151,000 immigrants to the UK. The UK has
a slightly lower number of immigrants as a proportion of its population than
France or Germany.
The Government has recently revised its long-term forecasts for annual net immigration upwards by one third to 190,000.

Data buried deep in the official figures revealed that over the next five years immigration is projected to run at close to a quarter of a million before reducing.
In the current financial year, officials expect net migration - the difference between those arriving and leaving - to be 240,000.

Next year, projected net immigration is 230,000 - and this figure does not fall to the long-term ''assumption" of 190,000 a year until 2012.

Now we could look at this in terms of MPH, Mileage, or normally as "increasing figures" but a Farrari and a Skoda?, it might as well be a Rover and a Honda - the brands of vehicle being completely irrelevant, but if that in some way helps you do the maths.

These figures I have already mentioned, of course as I have also already said, we cannot get an accurate year on year increase by the fact the figures relate to illegal immigrants "caught", a smaller percentage of those that succeed in entering. of which such figures cannot be counted due to the lack of illegal immigrants wearing T-shirts with the slogan "I am an Illegal Immigrant" gathering in large groups so they can be counted more accurately.

We can only estimate that the majority get in, a minority get caught, else they simply would not attempt to it in such drones.

However, as I have also already inquired of you - If you have such facts and figures (even if using a Farrari's Mileage and speed increment against a Skoda's), that you can show me, I am more than prepared to look at them.

Until such a time I can only guess year on year, the Farrari goes Twice as fast as the previous year, and the Skoda does double the mileage for every year (although its a bizarre analogy).

Why do I call the facts as facts? ok (although I suspect your plucking straws for the sake of argument)

Are we over crowded? - Yes - I think this is a fact by simply looking around at the crisis

Is illegal Immigration a big problem? - Yes - I think this is a fact based on the struggling NHS system, the Benefits system (which an illegal immigrant can claim once applying for asylum), and the illegal (non tax paying) workforce.

Can our benefits system and health service cope with the excess demand? - No - I think this is a fact by simply........well looking at the facts.

Is Immigration a problem? - Only as a result of the first two facts. - I think this is a fact based solely on the lack of available jobs, the waiting list for houses and the overcrowding hospitals.

Is it racial to address it? - Not at all. - I think this is a fact based on not including ethnicity

Does anything need to be done about it? - Definitely.- I think this is a fact because doing nothing about it wont really help any of the above facts circumstances.

dfh

waqasahmed wrote: »

The invasion of Iraq was a fuel for terrorism. Any way, there are white terrorists as well you know?

So basically the invasion of IRAQ is to be excused for waging war against England.It is interesting to know where the loyalties of some people lie.I remember a planned march in a town that has always paid respects to our dead soldiers.I suppose some people are happy when they see the bodies of dead English soldiers.

dfh

CWCDiver wrote: »

Wow what a totally moronic post, benefits are not paid straight away, or in many cases not at all.

Please can you provide proof of this? The Daily Mail has proof that this does happen.Where is your proof that it dosen't?

dfh

waqasahmed wrote: »

The invasion of Iraq was a fuel for terrorism. Any way, there are white terrorists as well you know?

Who was responsible for
9/11
7/7
26/12
The shoe bomber
Glasgow bombings?

cybergibbons

You actually don't understand the figures you are posting do you?

10th March 2009 As many as 947,000 illegal immigrants could be living in Britain, more than double a previous Home Office estimate.

An estimate of the number of illegal immigrants in this country.

If you want to compare this to the number of legal migrants, the number in the last census was 4,900,000.

By estimates there are less illegal immigrants than legal. If you can dispute this, please do.

Next year, projected net immigration is 230,000 - and this figure does not fall to the long-term ''assumption" of 190,000 a year until 2012.

This means that regardless of the current number of legal immigrants, it will increase by 230,000 over the next year. 330,000 people could arrive and 100,000 leave, it doesn't matter.

More than 3,300 were picked up in just an eight month period in 2008

You reckoned that 20% would be caught.

3,300 over 8 months means 4950 in 12 months.

If that is 20% of the total, then you think that 24750 illegal immigrants entered the UK in the year.

That's a whole lot less than the 230,000 legal immigrants, no?

I'll stop with the analogy as you don't seem to be able to grasp how they work.

anon_ymous

dfh wrote: »

So basically the invasion of IRAQ is to be excused for waging war against England.It is interesting to know where the loyalties of some people lie.I remember a planned march in a town that has always paid respects to our dead soldiers.I suppose some people are happy when they see the bodies of dead English soldiers.

I said it was a fuel. I didnt say there werent any before. The Iraqi people didnt want Saddam, nor intl intervention(la saddam, la amreeka were on some of the protests) meaning no saddam no America

I didnt say its an excuse, but you can not say there arent any white terrorists

cybergibbons

marleyboy wrote: »

Are we over crowded? - Yes - I think this is a fact by simply looking around at the crisis

"I think this is a fact". You know that means that what you are saying is an opinion, and not a fact?

Seems literacy is a weak point along with numeracy.

Alias_Omega

The thread has run its course, and has gone off topic.

Thread Closed.

Esqui

dfh wrote: »

Read the Daily Mail if you want to know the truth.

HA!

It's clear you're having us on, no-one's that idiotic.

Um...also, aren't closed threads not able to be posted in?