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cybergibbons

dfh wrote: »

I don't need to go abroad to see foriegners.Thanks to Labour's open door immigration,we have been swamped.I would say over 90% of people in this country are now foriegners.

You're either a troll, or deluded.

Marleyboy, your maths is way off. It's like saying "My Skoda has done 120 thousand miles, your Ferrari goes at 180mph, my Skoda is faster."

stugib

dfh wrote: »

I won't be surprised if this board has been hijacked by foriegners.Marley,like me,I hope you will vote for OUR interests in the general elections.Not vote LAB-LIB-CON but a truely English party that cares for us native English.

Get yourself over to the Discussion Time forum, you can join your BNP friends who have hijacked that.

dfh wrote: »

I would say over 90% of people in this country are now foriegners.

:rotfl: Well given the Simon Darby's BNP definition of 'indiginous British' you may not be far off.

Equaliser123

dfh wrote: »

Marleyboy-You are the only person on this board that talks sense.I won't be surprised if this board has been hijacked by foriegners.Marley,like me,I hope you will vote for OUR interests in the general elections.Not vote LAB-LIB-CON but a truely English party that cares for us native English.

English? Or British?

marleyboy

Originally Posted by dfh
Marleyboy-You are the only person on this board that talks sense.I won't be surprised if this board has been hijacked by foriegners.Marley,like me,I hope you will vote for OUR interests in the general elections.Not vote LAB-LIB-CON but a truely English party that cares for us native English.

I dont look at people in terms of ethnicity, as I class everyone as Human, I maybe patriotic to my Country, (I am sure everyone is proud of their race), but that does not make me unpatriotic to anyone else. I would never vote BNP or UKIP, because despite some of their policies - They are far too racially discriminate to get my vote.


I dont like the word Foreigners because I do not know a Country on this One Planet we share called, "The Foreign Land". However I do think there is no more room at the Inn, if the Inn is overcrowded, priority should first be given to the Inn Keepers, closely followed by the longterm paying tenants, then the frequent guests. The squatters should be the first to be evicted.

cybergibbons wrote: »

Marleyboy, your maths is way off. It's like saying "My Skoda has done 120 thousand miles, your Ferrari goes at 180mph, my Skoda is faster."

Just as well I mentioned I am no mathematician, but as to your analogy..................I have absolutely NO IDEA what your dribbling about....

One might just say there are far more Skoda's on the road than Farrari's, but compared to traffic jams and road congestion in general, it matters not which is faster, as they all crawl through the heavy populated rush-hour traffic congestion at pretty much the same speed as the other, no matter how many miles are on the clock, nor how many different brands of car are in front or behind the tailback.

I tend to stick to the relevant facts n figures than some completely random analogy, should you have some facts n figures vaguely "relevant" to the argument, I am more than happy to look at them .....................Sorry, but I guess a souped up Skoda competing against a Farrari in rush hour, is fruitless, .

FACTS.


Are we over crowded? - Yes
Is illegal Immigration a big problem? - Yes
Can our benefits system and health service cope with the excess demand? - No
Is Immigration a problem? - Only as a result of the first two facts.
Is it racial to address it? - Not at all.
Does anything need to be done about it? - Definitely.

anon_ymous

dfh wrote: »

How dare a foriegner judge a born and bred person like me?

That sort of comment was comon during the apartheid in the USA. Its similar to saying how dare a black woman wont give up a seat for me?

For the record I class myself as British and THEN Asian. Also we live in a terraced house with a three sibling family. Thers your mansion!

My grand dad has many houses yes, but hes worked hard for them and bought them on the cheap, whilst borrowing from friends/relatives etcc..

He lives in a nice house but hes earned it! Hardly a mansion though...

cybergibbons

It's going to be fruitless trying to make any reasonable point to you. The analogy is basic - you are comparing two figures, that are similar, but not the same. One is an absolute, the other a rate.

Your figures say there are about 1,000,000 illegal immigrants. This is an absolute figure. No comment on how fast it is increasing or decreasing.

The other figure shows that the predicted net immigration rate is about 230,000 per year. That means that during a year, the number of legal immigrants will increase by 230,000.

The analogy is between distance vs. speed, and number of people vs. the rate of people arriving. They aren't the same, you can't compare them.

The number of people in the UK who were born abroad, according to the last census, is about 5,000,000.

So 1,000,000 illegal immigrants against 5,000,000 legal immigrants. That's a bit different to your picture of 1,000,000 illegal immigrants and 230,000 legal immigrants, isn't it?

You also quote that 3,300 illegal immigrants were stopped over an 8 month period. You pull a percentage out of the hat and say 20% are caught. Let's make it more extreme, so only 5% are caught. If we extend that our to a year, that means about 100,000 illegal immigrants would arrive each year. That's lower than the legal migration rate by a lot.

Why are your "FACTS" facts? There's no evidence there, just assertions by you.

Why are we overcrowded?

You do also realise that illegal immigrants cannot claim benefits, cannot get access to health services, or education?

dfh

marleyboy wrote: »

I dont look at people in terms of ethnicity, as I class everyone as Human, I maybe patriotic to my Country, (I am sure everyone is proud of their race), but that does not make me unpatriotic to anyone else. I would never vote BNP or UKIP, because despite some of their policies - They are far too racially discriminate to get my vote.


I dont like the word Foreigners because I do not know a Country on this One Planet we share called, "The Foreign Land". However I do think there is no more room at the Inn, if the Inn is overcrowded, priority should first be given to the Inn Keepers, closely followed by the longterm paying tenants, then the frequent guests. The squatters should be the first to be evicted.

Just as well I mentioned I am no mathematician, but as to your analogy..................I have absolutely NO IDEA what your dribbling about....

One might just say there are far more Skoda's on the road than Farrari's, but compared to traffic jams and road congestion in general, it matters not which is faster, as they all crawl through the heavy populated rush-hour traffic congestion at pretty much the same speed as the other, no matter how many miles are on the clock, nor how many different brands of car are in front or behind the tailback.

I tend to stick to the relevant facts n figures than some completely random analogy, should you have some facts n figures vaguely "relevant" to the argument, I am more than happy to look at them .....................Sorry, but I guess a souped up Skoda competing against a Farrari in rush hour, is fruitless, .

FACTS.


Are we over crowded? - Yes
Is illegal Immigration a big problem? - Yes
Can our benefits system and health service cope with the excess demand? - No
Is Immigration a problem? - Only as a result of the first two facts.
Is it racial to address it? - Not at all.
Does anything need to be done about it? - Definitely.

Looks like you have been brainwashed as well Marleyboy.Pity,as you seemed to talk some sense.But I guess the foriegners must be sending out some brainwashing waves around now.With help from The Guardian and New LABOUR.

dfh

waqasahmed wrote: »

that cant be applied here. We are all the same species, so a better analogy would be
if a german shepherd is born in the house of a dalmation, is it still not a dog?

Or if tulips are grown in the same bed as daffodils- are they still not flowers?

Problem is three people who did something bad on the 7th of July were born in this country.

dfh

cybergibbons wrote: »

It's going to be fruitless trying to make any reasonable point to you. The analogy is basic - you are comparing two figures, that are similar, but not the same. One is an absolute, the other a rate.

Your figures say there are about 1,000,000 illegal immigrants. This is an absolute figure. No comment on how fast it is increasing or decreasing.

The other figure shows that the predicted net immigration rate is about 230,000 per year. That means that during a year, the number of legal immigrants will increase by 230,000.

The analogy is between distance vs. speed, and number of people vs. the rate of people arriving. They aren't the same, you can't compare them.

The number of people in the UK who were born abroad, according to the last census, is about 5,000,000.

So 1,000,000 illegal immigrants against 5,000,000 legal immigrants. That's a bit different to your picture of 1,000,000 illegal immigrants and 230,000 legal immigrants, isn't it?

You also quote that 3,300 illegal immigrants were stopped over an 8 month period. You pull a percentage out of the hat and say 20% are caught. Let's make it more extreme, so only 5% are caught. If we extend that our to a year, that means about 100,000 illegal immigrants would arrive each year. That's lower than the legal migration rate by a lot.

Why are your "FACTS" facts? There's no evidence there, just assertions by you.

Why are we overcrowded?

You do also realise that illegal immigrants cannot claim benefits, cannot get access to health services, or education?

Stop being brain washed.It is a well known fact that migrants get benefits the moment they enter this country.Read the Daily Mail if you want to know the truth.The get to stay in mansions,get free phones and cars and an initial 100000 pound grant paid for by us tax payers.

anon_ymous

dfh wrote: »

Problem is three people who did something bad on the 7th of July were born in this country.

The invasion of Iraq was a fuel for terrorism. Any way, there are white terrorists as well you know?