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  • PasturesNew
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    SingleSue wrote: »

    The trigger for today? He couldn't put his clothes on in the order he wanted to, so he punched his elder brother (who just happened to be closest) in the back and tried to whack him with a skateboard.
    Sounds fair :)
  • SingleSue
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    Lol....eldest certainly didn't think so.

    Order of clothes going on and cutlery/plates are the things he is most obsessed about, you thwart him and all hell lets loose.
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
  • lostinrates
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    edited 7 October 2010 at 12:27PM
    vivatifosi wrote: »
    . If people have a right to be here (whether born here or not), and are legally claiming their entitlements we should get over it. Rules that are clearly silly or anachronistic have to change - a council house for life being a prime example, as is paying people to have lots of children - but there's no point it tarring all council house tenants or all benefit recipients with the same brush.
    ...
    I'll now step off my soapbox and apologise to lir. Sorry lir.


    Forgiven. Its an excellent post. :)

    The bit I quote though: the problem is to reach the point where we get social ...acceptance, average agreement, over what is anachronistic means we will be discussing it. So we have to create another divide: the bigoted and the all em brasing, to somehow find a central ground that's not bigoted and understands coffers can run dry.

    FWIW I am genetically less British than many. I have alwaysfelt there is no box for me. I tick other. My cultures, both of birth and influences where I lived as a kid, are VITAL components of who I am. I chose a British passport of the choice I had. I feel committed to that choice because I think as well as some rubbish it stands for an awful lot of good. I like it.

    I recently made the decision to leave the physio who has helped me a lot because he started telling racist jokes, then progressing to ''two of my best friends is ''not white''..but...'' sort of stuff. No point fixing my body if my mind is being filled with filth.

    eta: I have the weirdest craving for ''fizzy pop''....cola, lemonade, fizzy orange....all the sort of stuff I don't keep in the house. What on earth could that be about? No mineral/vit craving in that is there?
  • sss555s
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    silvercar wrote: »
    We are getting a Morrisons, good news as its competition for Tesco. Don't really know what Morissons is like, I've never been in one before.

    I find Morrisons have a better fruit n veg section but i prefer Tescos overall.

    There isn't too much difference and size of store/location is as important as anything else.
  • vivatifosi
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    Forgiven. Its an excellent post. :)

    The bit I quote though: the problem is to reach the point where we get social ...acceptance, average agreement, over what is anachronistic means we will be discussing it. So we have to create another divide: the bigoted and the all em brasing, to somehow find a central ground that's not bigoted and understands coffers can run dry.

    It's a shame isn't it. Goes back to your point about not being able to have a balanced debate about immigration without the bigots jumping in. Still, at least we have a good idea who they are now. Fortunately they aren't nice people and don't hang out over here.

    Sorry about your physio btw.
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • Davesnave
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    silvercar wrote: »
    We are getting a Morrisons, good news as its competition for Tesco. Don't really know what Morissons is like, I've never been in one before.

    Morrisons is OK. They undercut Sainsburys on many things. Even the small one has a fishmonger too. Like Sainsbury, they have well-developed ranges of low, middle and higher end stuff, but higher doesn't always guarantee nicer, of course.

    Our nearest supermarkets are Sainsburys and Morrisons; 12 and 14 miles respectively. The journey to small Sainsburys is prettier, but we often go instead to 'Big Sainsburys,' which is 22 miles. After a year, we have adapted to not popping out for something we've forgotten! There's a Spar a mile away, if we're desperate.

    As for Mr T, we don't go there at all, though we use their car park occasionally. I'm not being snobby; they just don't stock things we buy regularly.
  • tomterm8
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    edited 7 October 2010 at 6:02PM
    SingleSue wrote: »
    My problem is that back then, I was still able to just about restrain him but he is now a similar height to me, weighs more than me, is way stronger than he was (and he had super human strength when he was a wee tot at primary school) and I am now weakened by arthritis.


    I;m afraid I can't help you with many of these problems, because of lack of experience. I thought the forum might be able to suggest who to contact for more professional help.

    In terms of physical restraint, have you considered Tai Chi? It is useful exercise, anyway, especially for people with mobility dificulties, but also a martial art focused on defence, where most of the moves alow you to disable someone without harming them.
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  • lostinrates
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    Davesnave wrote: »
    As for Mr T, we don't go there at all, though we use their car park occasionally. I'm not being snobby; they just don't stock things we buy regularly.


    I go where is cheapest and best for basics. Although I hate Mr T its my best option here. It also works out cheaper that Sainsburys for us. For some reason i always here shop managers being horrid to staff in Sainsburys,which puts me off, but its cheapest petrol here. Asda is a ruddy nightmare with the parking here, Morrisons is titchy. As is expensive Waitrose. I still haven't found a good butcher locally..though I've been told there is one I haven't got that far away from here in that direction.

    I've yet to find a supermarket whose veg I really am happy with but find sainsburys and waitrose the best. Need to find a greengrocer too really.


    I am a supermarket hoar.
  • carolt
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    I looove Waitrose. It's probably my favourite shop. I'm like a kid in a candy store in there...lots of yummy, posh treats stretching out in every direction.

    That said, shop most in Tesco's, as easiest online and cheapest for essentials.

    I'm looking forward to the Morrison's too, silvercar - not that far from us now.
  • carolt
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    edited 7 October 2010 at 10:11PM
    vivatifosi wrote: »
    It's strange, but I went away and slept on Michaels's thread last night and also on the Gen and carolt thing. I don't like disharmony at all. I don't like it when chucky and carolt fight, as they are people I respect, I don't like it when really2 and gd fight for the same reason and I hope that Gen and carol both continue to post, albeit perhaps being a bit more sensitive to the views of the other in the future.

    The more I think about Michaels's point about racism, I think its more of a general trend towards intolerance and disharmony.

    To summarise we have:

    Gen Yers vs Baby boomers
    Private sector vs public sector workers
    DINKYs vs parents
    People on benefit vs people on higher rate tax
    Everyone vs the bankers
    Lots of others I've missed out...

    I don't like this divisiveness at all. It is clear that everyone is going to suffer cuts but picking on someone on the grounds that they are different, whether its race, religion, social standing, intelligence or anything else is wrong. If people have a right to be here (whether born here or not), and are legally claiming their entitlements we should get over it. Rules that are clearly silly or anachronistic have to change - a council house for life being a prime example, as is paying people to have lots of children - but there's no point it tarring all council house tenants or all benefit recipients with the same brush.

    As an aside, the next census is coming up in 2011. Thinking on michaels's point, I wonder how many of you are white and have families that came here in the last 60 years. Your great grandparents may have moved here and you may be second or third generation to be born here. Do you consider yourself British? Of course you do and you would tick said box on the last census in 2001. So why would you have to tick a box that says black Caribbean or Pakistani if your family came from such a place many years back. It breeds divisiveness and black and asian people who were born in the UK have as much right to consider themselves black british or asian british as I do white british. I hope the government change this stupid anomaly for the next census.

    I'll now step off my soapbox and apologise to lir. Sorry lir.


    Sorry if I've upset the nice people! - my intention was not to provoke anyone at all or criticise anyone on the forum - it was most definitely the govt and George Osborne's cack-handed policy making I was criticising! But equally I'm not one to stand by and take it when personal insult threads are posted - I felt that was unacceptable. Although if silvercar is right, then I am standing by while nasty stuff is being posted - no intention of searching for it, and if I've never seen it, it's not exactly going to keep me awake at night...

    Re you points about the divides on the board, in a strange way that's one of the things I like about the board - in that Hamish et al sometimes like to present the board as a battle of bears v bulls - but in fact, as these divides show, we function on so many levels and whilst we may differ hugely in our feelings/views on house prices, say, we may firmly agree on politics (as I suspect I do with StevieJ, say, or even, I suspect, chucky), and there are many, many other examples of unlikely bedfellows. I've been thanked by many people who hate my guts in housing terms but happen to agree with me in my views on the public sector, anti-racism, politics etc etc. If it really was just one side versus the other all the time it would be intolerable - by coming together as allies in other areas we come to realise those we disagree with our human after all.

    silvercar, I hope you won't mind me mentioning you here - I know you dislike my views on landlords and it is a bit reciprocal but because I agree with you in so many other areas it isn't something that we need to take personally (well, I hope you don't anyway).

    I think genuine 'friends' (well, internet buddies, anyway) can disagree but come out liking each other.

    FWIW, I don't have any strong feelings on Generali - just v disappointed, but I daresay that won't bother him.

    The anger isn't there.

    Re the anger on this board - don't forget I'm probably not the only person who uses this board for 'venting' - emotions are expressed out loud here, but in many ways I'd rather have the honesty of that here, where it's harmless and can be resolved, than real anger or depression in real life.

    Sorry - long post, long day... (yawn smilie)
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