MSE Parents Club Part 11

cazscoob

Glamazon wrote: »

would someone like my son?

I can send him via DHL 24 and you can have him tomorrow

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He is driving me nuts!!!! He wants me, then he doesn't, he's hungry then he's not, he's tired but won't sleep :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

would you like a swap for Charlie????:p

cazscoob

thanks for the pic Elle!! i couldnt see it yesterday!
Weezl he is beautiful and looks so peaceful!

tiamai_d

Glamazon wrote: »

would someone like my son?

I can send him via DHL 24 and you can have him tomorrow

AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

He is driving me nuts!!!! He wants me, then he doesn't, he's hungry then he's not, he's tired but won't sleep :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I'll take him and put him in the cot with some toys and leave him too it. Just like I do to Amber when she is being twisted.

Sami_Bee wrote: »

winkies are gross

Mr. Malory Moley. :rotfl:

csh_2

Sami_Bee wrote: »

IFAIK they do not have to offer you any other role, they are within their rights to say we can't accommodate your request so if you no longer want your job you can hand your notice in (you'd need to confirm that but I'm pretty sure that is still the case)

elle_gee wrote: »

When you return from maternity leave after six months (different rules if you returned later), you have the right to your old job back, same terms and conditions as you left it on. If you don't want that job anymore, you need to write a letter with your requested change to terms (in the case of flexible working, the change to your hours) and might want to include the ways you can see working around such request - can some of your jobs be done by other people; can you change a way of working, etc. You don't have to give a reason why you want flexible working - it's assumed you have children under 16 (or under 18 if disabled) because that's what enables you to have the right to request flexible working anyway, and your arrangements for childcare are none of their business or concern. If they say no, you can appeal (not argue!) against their decision but they can still refuse it on a vast number of business reasons (there is almost always a way for them to refuse it if they really want to). If they refuse and you don't want the job they do offer, you need to hand your notice in and walk away.

ETA: Just done the maths - K will be older than six months if you're going back in May. In which case, you have the right to a job on the same terms and conditions (hours, rate of pay, holidays etc) as your old one but not necessarily your old job back.

Ok so I don't need to give them business reasons which is good because I'd just look stupid doing so!

So, do they have to offer me a job any job if I don't want my old job back or not??
The only position on same terms and conditions is my job. There are only 2 FT contracts available in the company, the rest of the work force are PT flexible and on an hourly rate.


Sorry for posting and disappearing, the IL's popped round!

tiamai_d

I just wasted half the day. Collected DS2 then went to get dog food then went to asda for school trousers - none. Them my mum called to say she had a cheque for me (for the catering equipment) so went all the way into town but the woman had dated it 19/04/10, whether on purpose or accidental I don't know. Then got school shoes for DS1 but clarks have no more boots for Christopher.

Fitzio

CSH – This is taken from the Direct Gov website so may assist you with your letter and what you should include:

When making your application you must confirm that you either:

have responsibility for the upbringing of the child and you are either the mother, father, adopter, guardian or foster parent or are married to or the partner of them

Your application must:

be made well in advance of when you want it to take effect

be in writing (whether on paper or electronically)

be dated

state that the application is made under the statutory right to request a flexible working pattern

give details of the flexible working pattern you are applying for, including the date from which you want it to start

explain what effect you believe the new working pattern would have on your employer, and how any effects might be dealt with

state whether you have made a previous application and, if so, when

The more notice you give your employer, the more likely they will be able to implement the change when you want it. The statutory process can take up to 14 weeks or longer where a problem arises.

However, you do not have to:

provide evidence that you have a parental or caring responsibility

demonstrate why the care cannot be provided by someone else

Krystaltips

Oh dear... Caitlyn just had a little sick, Aimee's friend has just come to play because there's an emergency at home and hubby just text to say he has belly pains... It's not looking good folks!

csh_2

Sami_Bee wrote: »

was gonna say, it was csh's choice to have a baby and stay in her job, it's not their problem/duty to change her role to suit her circumstance

Its their legal duty to consider it. I agree with gill about the hours, its only just bordering on being legal with the working time directive and all that jazz.

elle_gee

It's not whether you want your old job back or not - they can choose which job to give you, they just have to give you a job. If the only job on those terms is your old one, they can offer you that one or can create a new one. However, that job they offer will be on the same hours (and pay etc etc) as you had before, then you have to ask for flexible working in that job, so the issue is still the same.

Fitzio

I don't know, but I would imagine that if they refuse your request, and you lose your appeal, they would not have to offer you another job with those conditions. They only have to offer you a job with your existing conditions which we know are no longer suitable anyway, and as you said, there aren't any others. However, it would be in their interests to retain you in some form due to your experience and the cost of training new people surely?

Have you had any enhanced maternity pay from them, and if so, would you have to pay this back if worst came to the worst and you did walk away?