Great 'disguised Own Brand' Hunt.

Leesa_2

Isn't there a clothing factory in Manchester that makes clothes for Next and George (Asda) ?

I think Tayto (crisps) supply Tesco's with snacks. See here.

charlieheard

saver01 wrote:

if scientifically u looked at "organic" products then u would see that they are no more organic than standard cheaper food.

What utter rubbish - the chemicals that can be used on organic farms are strictly limited in timescale and dosage. Non-organic milk can contain all sorts of drugs that the cows have eaten or been injected with.

And are you saying that an organic, free-range chicken has the same chemicals in it as a standard supermarket "Value-brand" battery-reared 2 month-old chicken that has all sorts of drugs and chemicals just to make it survive in such a hostile environment?

I'm no organic evangelist - I try to buy farm produce from people I know at the local market rather than organic stuff from all over the world - but even I can see the difference between organic and non

charlieheard

ukbandit wrote:

The following car manufacterers are the same, being part of the VW groups:
Audi
VW
Seat
Skoda.

the mechanics are the same, with the differences being styling at the most.

...

so do yourself the favour and buy the seat/skodas, and save a packet!

After my earlier post, I found an article on these recently. The gist was that buying new, the Audi is actually cheapest to run over 3 years, because it holds its value much better than the Skoda/SEAT, more than offsetting the higher purchase price and finance with a much higher value after 3 years. Company car drivers love them... :rolleyes:

On the other hand, private buyers should do as ukbandit suggests and buy secondhand, so that you can take advantage of the Skoda/SEAT poor resale value and buy them cheap. :money:

Is there going to be a set of money-saving articles on car ownership? The motley fool has some, but I haven't looked for a while as I much prefer this site

sarahluv

charlieheard wrote:

What utter rubbish - the chemicals that can be used on organic farms are strictly limited in timescale and dosage. Non-organic milk can contain all sorts of drugs that the cows have eaten or been injected with.

all milk is screened for drugs such as antibiotics and is not allowed to enter the foodchain if it has any trace amounts in it.

sarahluv

gkf wrote:

Organic milk is better for you, I have been told that ordinary milk is from cows who have been fed hormones etc to increase milk yield. Females can be affected by drinking this milk with extra hormones and this can affect their hormonal balance. I have always bought organic since then as this makes information made sense to me.;

hormone injections are banned in the eu!

Liney_2

I used to work briefly for Plumrose in Kings Lynn and they used to process a lot of the packaged hams, sandwich meats for Tesco and Sainsbury's.

ukbandit

charlieheard wrote:

After my earlier post, I found an article on these recently. The gist was that buying new, the Audi is actually cheapest to run over 3 years, because it holds its value much better than the Skoda/SEAT, more than offsetting the higher purchase price and finance with a much higher value after 3 years. Company car drivers love them... :rolleyes:

On the other hand, private buyers should do as ukbandit suggests and buy secondhand, so that you can take advantage of the Skoda/SEAT poor resale value and buy them cheap. :money:

Is there going to be a set of money-saving articles on car ownership? The motley fool has some, but I haven't looked for a while as I much prefer this site

charlie, thanks for going off to do some research and report back! do you have a link for that article?

audi you are right have much higher residuals, mainly becuse of the percieved value for money, higher original costs and the fact that they and VW get the VW tech first, whilst skoda and seat are the poorer cousins. this is i think no bad thing for skoda and seat, as they get the tech thats been tried and tested on the aud/VW owners!!!

so fir example, the seat i have has the old audi dash and controls, and the audi/vw 2/0tdi engine is not yet availabe for skoda and seat to use in their cars.

still it means that you can do what i did, and get save alot of money if your willing to not have the audi/vw badge.

the savings have reduced recently, i.e. the last year or so as more people have realised that the seat and skodas are decent cars in their own right, but there are still significant savings to be had.

go on autotrader and see what you can get for say 8000 in all 4 marques, and you will see that there is a vast difference.

charlieheard

Afraid I can't remember the magazine, as it was borrowed while on holiday. It might have been Car, but don't quote me! But as you say, a look at the web will back it up. For depreciation data, you can look at What Car who will show you expected values after 3 years, or current values on older cars...

littlelaurakate

ukbandit wrote:

audi you are right have much higher residuals, mainly becuse of the percieved value for money, higher original costs and the fact that they and VW get the VW tech first, whilst skoda and seat are the poorer cousins. this is i think no bad thing for skoda and seat, as they get the tech thats been tried and tested on the aud/VW owners!!!

Very interesting thread! You would think that the (very true!) observation you made above would mean that they put bad design faults wrong eh?

No, my OH has the 1.8 Golf GTI, I have the Seat Cupra 1.8 Turbo, same engines, mine is year newer. Yet, we have both had 2/3 coil packs fail on both of these cars (identically useless parts)!! VW don't want to know!! Seat (which is really VW eh!) don't want to know...both equally rubbish customer service! I will be steering well clear of any member company of the VW family in future! Think it'll be a Saab next time!

mrwibble

littlelaurakate wrote:

Very interesting thread! You would think that the (very true!) observation you made above would mean that they put bad design faults wrong eh?

No, my OH has the 1.8 Golf GTI, I have the Seat Cupra 1.8 Turbo, same engines, mine is year newer. Yet, we have both had 2/3 coil packs fail on both of these cars (identically useless parts)!! VW don't want to know!! Seat (which is really VW eh!) don't want to know...both equally rubbish customer service! I will be steering well clear of any member company of the VW family in future! Think it'll be a Saab next time!

Well I had the same problem on my OH's Audi A3 1.8T a few years ago when this problem first surfaced and all the coils were replaced at the next service free.

If I remember correctly Audi did this for all the relevant 1.8T engines - I am surprised you have had problems as this is an extremely well known problem and at least Audi made a song and dance in the press about fixing it gratis - this must have happened a few years ago as the coils concerned were from a specific batch - maybe its just that famously naff VW service - at least Audi make you feel good before siphoning off the contents of your bank account.

Just have a look at https://www.honestjohn.co.uk - in the forum area you should be able to get some hints for getting VW by the short and curlies - very good site and they like to help !