Great 'disguised Own Brand' Hunt.

risquenun

I have a cousin in America who buys salmon for John West.
All Alaskan tinned salmon comes off the boats in Dillingham into a cannery owned by Peter Pan Foods. It is canned and cooked in the tin and then auctioned by the palett to the highest bidder -The tins are then labelled by the purchasing company before being sold.

januarygirl11

I bought my Dad some Chanel aftershave which was a cream in a tube. The tube split and he contacted Chanel who were part of Boujois, based in Croydon.Chanel didn't seem quite so glam after that!
Also, M&S have a skincare range which the packaging is very similar to clarins and come to think of it one cosmetic packaging similar to Chanel. Years ago when I was at London college of fashion my tutor told me that Miss Selfridge makeup[ok it was years ago]was made by Helena Rubenstein.

patman99

A couple of years ago, I bought an 18 Volt cordless drill from a bootsale, the drill was black with yellow markings. There was no makers name on it, but the batteries were marked 'TMN18NCID'.
Last year, I bought a 'Ryobi' 18 volt cordless from a bootsale, when I looked at the battery I realised it was the same as the ones that had come with the other drill. They fitted the Ryobi, and even charged on the Ryobi charger.

I never did find out who made the other drill, but at least I now have an 18 volt cordless drill with 4 batteries instead of two.

I'm intrigued. Do Ryobi make 2 product ranges?, or are they a subsiduary of another company?, or do they simply buy their batteries from a company that specifically makes battery packs?.

mateypeeps

Sheepster wrote: »

That is true, but try using that one in one of the stores renowned for bugging you to take out an extended guarantee, when you turn up a day over the guarantee.

I was once told to my face, by the greasy obnoxious manager with zero people skills, in a certain large very well known store in my town, which I'd better not name I guess, that he didn't care about the law, he would ignore it.

Send an email to trading standards mentioning this then and see what they do to the idiot in charge. And the firm that employs him.

dan1w

patman99 wrote: »

A couple of years ago, I bought an 18 Volt cordless drill from a bootsale, the drill was black with yellow markings. There was no makers name on it, but the batteries were marked 'TMN18NCID'.
Last year, I bought a 'Ryobi' 18 volt cordless from a bootsale, when I looked at the battery I realised it was the same as the ones that had come with the other drill. They fitted the Ryobi, and even charged on the Ryobi charger.

I never did find out who made the other drill, but at least I now have an 18 volt cordless drill with 4 batteries instead of two.

I'm intrigued. Do Ryobi make 2 product ranges?, or are they a subsiduary of another company?, or do they simply buy their batteries from a company that specifically makes battery packs?.

Ryobi is owned by TTI, who also own AEG & Milwaukee. Two respected brands and hopefully Ryobi stuff shares some parts with the other two makes.

I have a few bits of the Ryobi one+ system and all is pretty good, especially the impact driver. I mentioned that to someone, they told me that Ryobi's impact drivers are made by Metabo in Germany and a quick google showed a previous TTI brand (Rigid) had four tools made by Metabo, so maybe some truth in that.

Tried to post the link to the TTI website but it says I'm too new. It doesn't contain the words TTI, Group, and .com though.

dan1w

spooky25 wrote: »

Hi all

This ones for all trades and diy people out there, if you are thinking of buying an expensive drill be aware that DEWALT are only black and decker drills in a yellow dewalt casing as much as the same as most power tools (hidden makes in a different casing).

Ive found that some of wickes own branded stuff is made by a good german brand called metabo (sorry may be spelt wrong).

so dont spend loads on tools just choose a battery drill with a good amp hour life in them (pref li-ion) 2.0 amh or higher this will allow you to work for longer periods.
other tools just check the power output and other info about the tool to before you buy as you will find that you may need a higher powered motor to do the job properly without knackering the tool in the first 5 minutes of use.

best places to look for good cheaper branded tools are places like screwfix ,tool station and any other trade or diy outlet.

I don't accept that. Dewalt aren't supposed to be the best products on the market but you aren't going to get the same performance out of a Black & Decker.

For instance Black & Decker's best cordless hammer drill is 18v, and there are only 3 in their range. Dewalt have a massive range of hammer drills going up to at least 36v. I can guarantee the build quality of everything in that 36v drill is going to be far superior than the B&D, and of course it's going to be a lot more expensive too.

The Black & Decker tool comes with a 1.5mah battery, whereas the cheapest dewalt I could find quickly on google comes with a 2.0mah battery, batteries being pretty expensive in themselves.

patman99

Where I work, we are trying to go fully-cordless on the shop floor, so we purchased 5 Makita 18volts, 5 Dewalt 18volts & 2 Worx
The first drill to pack-up was the Dewalt, so was the second. The Worx we bought 18 months ago, and it gets kicked around the shopfloor, yet still works perfectly.

BTW, it is worth trying different batteries in your drills as you may find another maners higher-capacity pack fits & powers yours.

sillymoo_2

Re all the posts about L'Oreal now owning Body Shop and how this relates to their ingredients not being tested on animals....well I've never understood any company that can actually say this....as far as I'm aware EVERY new ingredient sold within the EU must have been tested on animals....I believe this is an EU law....so yes, the mix of ingredients that make up your 'this cosmetic has not been tested on animals product' may be true, but every individual ingredient within that mix already has....I don't know how companies get away with this!

jenniewb

sillymoo wrote: »

Re all the posts about L'Oreal now owning Body Shop and how this relates to their ingredients not being tested on animals....well I've never understood any company that can actually say this....as far as I'm aware EVERY new ingredient sold within the EU must have been tested on animals....I believe this is an EU law....so yes, the mix of ingredients that make up your 'this cosmetic has not been tested on animals product' may be true, but every individual ingredient within that mix already has....I don't know how companies get away with this!

Good point, but I think the point these companies make is that they don't carry out that testing.

To say that a product is completely animal testing free would be hard- almost everything seems to have been tested on animals by one company or another, and unless your happy to put up with a shampoo made with something like, say, milk (maybe the only thing not tested on animals I can think up right now!) then your always going to find an animal tested ingredient in your chosen product.

The difference here is that the company supplying it to you did not do any tests on animals with that product or its ingredient. Instead they use tried and tested ingredients which they know are safe and with the overall product, this is either tested on humans or plants or some sort and in labs.

http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/05/05/the-truth-about-animal-testing-and-cosmetics/

Reverbe

sillymoo wrote: »

Re all the posts about L'Oreal now owning Body Shop and how this relates to their ingredients not being tested on animals....well I've never understood any company that can actually say this....as far as I'm aware EVERY new ingredient sold within the EU must have been tested on animals....I believe this is an EU law....so yes, the mix of ingredients that make up your 'this cosmetic has not been tested on animals product' may be true, but every individual ingredient within that mix already has....I don't know how companies get away with this!

Boots can claim that because they dont test their products on animals, they use MSERs...:rotfl:

Have to say I have always failed to see the point of animal testing. They are NOT humans and do not have the same genetic or physical makeup - and even individual humans have different reactions to things Was thalidomide not animal tested somewhere along the line?