BBC1 The day the immigrants left

Davesnave

Edinburghlass wrote: »

I thought that until I noticed there were at least three people standing around watching that poor young lad flounder on his own, not even knowing what the items on the menu were. No point in showing him how to lay a table if he doesn't understand the menu or indeed being talked through it. There was also a load of kitchen staff that gave him no help either when it came to him picking up the dishes.

Yes it was nice he was given a meal before leaving but really the point being made by the owner was that a Brit couldn't do the job while had he actually helped him I see no reason why he couldn't have made a go of it, that was the shame of that particular job. The lad seemed nice and I've no doubt it knocked a load of confidence out of him.

That section was the weak point of the programme.

Ali wanted to make the point that non-EU immigrants were now being restricted, and this could hurt his business when it came to recruitment. It was also part of his agenda that Brits 'could not do' the work as well as an Indian or Bangladeshi.

It was shown that an underconfident, possibly less literate young Brit would have serious trouble writing down orders for Chicken Dhansak or Gobi Aloo Saag without adequate training, but that was not really an earth-shattering revelation.

The whole Indian restaurant section screamed 'set-up,' though I admit, the other participants developing 'food poisoning' was an extra gift.

No wonder Ali was smiling!

vaporate

Davesnave wrote: »

That section was the weak point of the programme.

Ali wanted to make the point that non-EU immigrants were now being restricted, and this could hurt his business when it came to recruitment. It was also part of his agenda that Brits 'could not do' the work as well as an Indian or Bangladeshi.

It was shown that an underconfident, possibly less literate young Brit would have serious trouble writing down orders for Chicken Dhansak or Gobi Aloo Saag without adequate training, but that was not really an earth-shattering revelation.

The whole Indian restaurant section screamed 'set-up,' though I admit, the other participants developing 'food poisoning' was an extra gift.

No wonder Ali was smiling!

The whole show was a set-up. Certainly not a documentary.

They chose the worst looking unemployed with no qualifications.

I don't understand why they just did not put a big S superhero outfit on the immigrants and be done with it. :rotfl:

"Fear not UK, plonkerski will get these potatoes out on time" lol

ninky_2

vaporate wrote: »

Sounds like you fell for the bait. In my opinion, it showed a very baised view of unemployed British citizens.

I mean come on, tattos, no qualifications, criminal looking... Why not choose 1 of the 100,000 unemployed graduates (due to no experience) who are eager with a high drive and a 'can do' attitude.

Why? because it wouldn't get ratings for the show.

Believe what you like.:o

because the show was focussing on jobs that are traditionally filled by unskilled /non academic / manual labour brits as these are the roles that are most criticized as being taken by foreigners.

even though the nhs for example is staffed by large amounts of immigrant workers no one complains about this because they are filling jobs where there is a shortage of suitably qualified local applicants.

the programme showed that britain's unskilled unqualified unemployed are a pretty sorry bunch. hardly surprising since free education to 18 means even the most underprivileged could get a qualification or training of some sort if motivated.

Snooze

Have to admit that you wouldn't catch me picking asparagus from a field, nor anything else for that matter. However, if it were a choice of doing that or not receiving any dole money then I'd put up with it for as long as it took me to find something else. Or more to the point, if I knew that those were likely to be my options if I finished school with no qualifications then I'd be making sure I studied harder and came away with at least a bunch of A-levels or preferably a degree in something useful.

I have to agree with what the Polish builder said about the plasterboard framework too. If I'd employed someone to do that and saw them leaving all the nails hanging out by an inch from using a nail gun then they'd either be redoing it all until it was done properly or they'd be shown the door without any pay. The landlord's argument that using screws took too long is complete BS - has he never heard of leccy screwdrivers? What would be the difference in time between using a leccy driver vs. a nail gun? 3 seconds tops, and by screwing it together properly you wouldn't have to worry about the whole thing falling apart either, which is exactly what it looked like it was about to do with all the nails hanging out everywhere. :rolleyes:

amcluesent

> Why not choose 1 of the 100,000 unemployed graduates<

Yep, let's see a programme about IT graduates who were duped into running up a £15K debt for their BSc. Then they find that UK plc has outsourced IT and Indians come in on a visa as there is a 'skills shortage'. And I've seen such Indians with the beginner's guide book open under their desk...

ninky_2

amcluesent wrote: »

> Why not choose 1 of the 100,000 unemployed graduates<

Yep, let's see a programme about IT graduates who were duped into running up a £15K debt for their BSc. Then they find that UK plc has outsourced IT and Indians come in on a visa as there is a 'skills shortage'. And I've seen such Indians with the beginner's guide book open under their desk...

yeah cos historically britain hasn't had any financial benefits from its exploitation of india / indians.....

IT visas aren't just open to indians, i had an american friend who came over on one even though she didn't have a clue about IT really. then did a sham marriage to stay in the country. tbh i don't really mind about any of it because imho borders are artificial creations of dubious motivation. i consider myself a citizen of the world and am happy for people to go and live wherever they want / can by whatever means (other than murder obviously).

Malcolm.

ninky wrote: »

yeah cos historically britain hasn't had any financial benefits from its exploitation of india / indians.....

IT visas aren't just open to indians, i had an american friend who came over on one even though she didn't have a clue about IT really. then did a sham marriage to stay in the country. tbh i don't really mind about any of it because imho borders are artificial creations of dubious motivation. i consider myself a citizen of the world and am happy for people to go and live wherever they want / can by whatever means (other than murder obviously).

Too right, that's why I'm about to go break into and start using my neighbours house. (sarcasm)
I'm too tight to pay for the heating and electricity bill in mine.

ninky_2

Malcolm. wrote: »

Too right, that's why I'm about to go break into my neighbours house (sarcasm).
I'm too tight to pay for the heating and electricity bill for mine.

have you heard of 'the commons'. i don't mean the house where all the mps sit. but rather the fact that many things are considered common ownership. for example the air we breathe. well the world as a global territory was once this. corporates are allowed to operate across it. tesco is not prosecuted for opening up stores in other countries for example (which could be considered 'stealing' markets). however, it is considered perfectly okay to stop human beings from going to or living in other countries.

respecting someones right to quiet enjoyment of their home is quite different to preventing people living in certain areas of the world. how would you feel if you weren't allowed to go and live in wales or scotland for example? or people from villages were told they couldn't move to cities because they were overcrowded and they hadn't got a relative living there already?

policing our borders is an absolute joke and costs this country a complete fortune. i just had to face a one year farce including a court attendance complete with judge (paid for by UK taxes) in order to get a visa for a two week visit from my MIL. we've got an agreement we can have it now but it will no doubt be several more months of bureaucratic nonsense until it is issued. apparently there are 23 such courts across the UK operating on a daily basis. an open border in which people were allowed to work if they wanted to (but not claim benefit for a set time) would be far far cheaper.

Malcolm.

ninky wrote: »

have you heard of 'the commons'. i don't mean the house where all the mps sit. but rather the fact that many things are considered common ownership. for example the air we breathe. well the world as a global territory was once this. corporates are allowed to operate across it. tesco is not prosecuted for opening up stores in other countries for example (which could be considered 'stealing' markets). however, it is considered perfectly okay to stop human beings from going to or living in other countries.

respecting someones right to quiet enjoyment of their home is quite different to preventing people living in certain areas of the world. how would you feel if you weren't allowed to go and live in wales or scotland for example? or people from villages were told they couldn't move to cities because they were overcrowded and they hadn't got a relative living there already?

policing our borders is an absolute joke and costs this country a complete fortune. i just had to face a one year farce including a court attendance complete with judge (paid for by UK taxes) in order to get a visitor visa for my MIL. an open border in which people were allowed to work if they wanted to (but not claim benefit for a set time) would be far far cheaper.

Would schools and hospitals count as common ownership?
If so the UK's would be swamped by tourists looking for free education or treatment.

kissingthepink

Well as a working immigrant of 13 years I cannot blame those poor Brits on the programme. They will earn far more money by drinking beer and shagging all day and having loads of sprogs and claiming all sorts of benefits that come with having "cash cow" children than they ever will by working. And plus they really are too sensitive to hold down a job. When they were told they needed to speed up they "got steaming" and needed a break to cool down! This country has lost its working class and replaced it with a very poorly chav class of layabouts.