BBC1 The day the immigrants left

Bonia77

Pingu, I do understand what you are saying and sympathise, but do you seriously think that the people from that BBC programme were like your son??

What about the 26 year old guy, who says that he will only work if the job interests him, but can't offer anything to his employer to make him desirable emplyee? He did not even show up on his 1st day...

lostinrates

pingu2209 wrote: »

I don't know what you mean by that?

I know where my library is, have a card and lots of books of my own at home.

The problem with high level language difficulties is that even if they can read individual words and spell words out phonetically, they can't connect the words into a scentence to be able to understand what it means.

They may read out loud 'the box is red'. When you ask them what colour is the box, their reply tends to be 'what box?'. It isn't to do with reading, it is to do with comprehension.

I was refering to the child you feel isn't challenged enough. I meant ''nothing'' by it, other than wondering how you cope with that as a parent....if resources aren't there I suppose one has to see what one can provide children oneself. I'm interested in how easy this is or isn't for you. e.g. in my locality there are three local libraries. One is open Tues and fri mornings, one is open wednesday mornings, one is a mobile service, and I'm not sure what its route/hours hour. If I were a working parent in this rural loction I would find it hard. There are bigger, longer opening, and in fact good libraries with in 45minutes drive, and I should imagine in the biggest cities locally the libraries are excellent, though I haven't been. However, a parent would find that hard.

I'm simply asking, what you feel you can do with the public provision to help your son?

Edinburghlass_2

Radiantsoul wrote: »

I think it would be great to visit that curry house. The guy running it seemed like a really decent man.

I thought that until I noticed there were at least three people standing around watching that poor young lad flounder on his own, not even knowing what the items on the menu were. No point in showing him how to lay a table if he doesn't understand the menu or indeed being talked through it. There was also a load of kitchen staff that gave him no help either when it came to him picking up the dishes.

Yes it was nice he was given a meal before leaving but really the point being made by the owner was that a Brit couldn't do the job while had he actually helped him I see no reason why he couldn't have made a go of it, that was the shame of that particular job. The lad seemed nice and I've no doubt it knocked a load of confidence out of him.

Snooze

avantra wrote: »

Wow, I didn't know that maths is thought by a non-dedicated maths teachers. This is taking the biscuit in the great effort we name primary education IMO.

It looks like English wasn't thought at all at some schools...

Mr.Brown_4

BBC1 The day the immigrants left

and they were singing, bye bye Miss American Pie.

Mary_Hartnell

carolt wrote: »

Too tired.

Typical. It is never the parents' fault, so we must blame the teachers.:rotfl:

Who was it who brought up these kids and gave them the grit and application to cope in a globalised economy? roll-eyes

I was talking to my Slovak friend about his failed attempt to go home to his wife and kid. He got made redundant back there and replaced by a Ukranian.
So he is back here again now working permanent night shift - his "logistics" company was pleased to get him back.

Mary_Hartnell

pingu2209 wrote: »

My child with learning difficulties has high level language problems. The 'additional support' he gets is to get lumped into a small group once a week with a support teacher (who is not a trained specialist). The other children in the group have literacy problems like he does, but the reasons for their literacy problems are all different. One has asbergers, another is dyslexic etc. I complained and said that he needed to be in a small group but only children with the same problems as he does.

He needs to see a speech and language therapist once a week, that is the advised approach by the speech and language council of Britain. The school offers a speech and language therapist 3 times a year. That is the maximum.

Primary schools are failing our children. It is not the parents fault.

I have now gone the private route and pay for weekly private lessons with a speech and language therapist and daily literacy lessons with a teaching assistant after school - the cost is £120/week. More than many people's mortgages.

Bringing up kids with a bit of a handicap feels like a full time job - I should know.

Is he "statemented?"

Have you managed to join a self help group?

Did you manage to claim attendance allowance?

[ If we do pay for this socialist system it is worth getting to know how to work it]

I do hope your efforts bring results; it gives you inner strength.

worried_jim

I've just started this on the I-player, but I fear the worst. I think the Brits will all be useless, there is a reason there all on the dole, who would want to employ someone who has been unemployed for 5 years with tattoos on their neck who doesn't know how many time 4 goes into 15 when you can have a nice smart polite educated eastern European.I am off to watch a bit more, I hope my initial impressions are wrong and they do really well- I some how doubt it though.

worried_jim

Ok, I am half way thru.
1 potato packer has been out on the P1ss and not turned up and the tall one is border line racist and neither of them can count to 12 bags of potatoes. (those that did make it were 1/2 an hour late on their first day, If I was the employer I'd have sent them home and told them not to bother)
Indian restaurant -1 out of 4 turned up.
Farm workers- useless and one has threatened to lamp his boss.
The carpenter- is unable to handle constructive feedback.
All the wisbech locals are daily mail readers.
The Farm owner seems to have his head screwed on and knows how to run an effective business.
Love the kid who couldn't be harrised to turn up at the potato factory- how many dvds as he got, spends all day playing xbox and we fund him £40 a week for the privilege, he is never going to get a job.

vaporate

ninky wrote: »

i thought it was a great show. it really did show that it is not a case of foreigners taking jobs off brits.

it was unbelievable that over half the brits couldn't even be arsed to put a decent show on for the cameras for two days. i mean that guy who texted in at gone midnight saying he'd just got in and felt a bit 'ill' so wasn't going to make it. cut to him playing computer games and saying he's not prepared to take any job.

others that were late because their kid had been ill in the night and then had the nerve to backchat the manager for saying it wasn't really acceptable!!

and that guy who wanted to call his new colleague 'bill' because 'uri' was too foreign a word for him to manage. and then said he couldn't understand his accent.

glad they mentioned that eastern europeans contribute more in tax on average than britons.

oh the shame.

bring in the immigrants. life in britain would be a lot more miserable without them.

Sounds like you fell for the bait. In my opinion, it showed a very baised view of unemployed British citizens.

I mean come on, tattos, no qualifications, criminal looking... Why not choose 1 of the 100,000 unemployed graduates (due to no experience) who are eager with a high drive and a 'can do' attitude.

Why? because it wouldn't get ratings for the show.

Believe what you like.:o