BBC1 The day the immigrants left

avantra

Work is work is work.

If you have one and it pays little - adjust your lifestyle please, I can't see how been out of work is better than £7/h ?!
I mean... the politicians and the stats already tells us that our future is in austerity ini't?

vaporate

avantra wrote: »

Work is work is work.

If you have one and it pays little - adjust your lifestyle please, I can't see how been out of work is better than £7/h ?!
I mean... the politicians and the stats already tells us that our future is in austerity ini't?

More like around £5.88.

Maybe not even that! I know in Kings Lynn in some factory they pay below the legal minimum wage. Which is clearly illegal but noone does anything.

I don't blame Brits for not working in such crap jobs. If you can even call it a job.

vaporate

Only UK, Ireland and I think Sweden allowed the flood gates to open for unlimited EU citizens to come through the borders.

Wonder why...

Anyway, that is my opinion.

Night each.

aelitaman

Butterfly_Brain wrote: »

All the bosses want is cheap slave labour!

Would you be happy to have a country that imports 100% of its food requirement if we paid all labour in agriclture 25K a year?

There is a Kenyan or a south American that will pick vegatables for 10p a day and then it is economical to ship the stuff here as the jet fuel costs still make it economical.

twadge_face

aelitaman wrote: »

Would you be happy to have a country that imports 100% of its food requirement if we paid all labour in agriclture 25K a year?

There is a Kenyan or a south American that will pick vegatables for 10p a day and then it is economical to ship the stuff here as the jet fuel costs still make it economical.

Such is the economic genius that is globalisation.

Some people make a LOT of money.

Some people can NEVER make much money at all.

But then I suppose what is different? Perhaps the answer is how whole countries are effectively enslaved whereas other whole countries become massively wealthy.

Where was the consent? Rape is rape.

amcluesent

>The way the unskilled younger Brits coped, or failed to cope, made me very sad.<

One oik and his 'laydee' had the right idea, a couple of babies will see them coin it in benefits.

Generali

Butterfly_Brain wrote: »

All the bosses want is cheap slave labour!

If you're doing unskilled work, that's the reality - anyone can do it so the boss wants as much work as possible for as little money as possible.

If you have skills that are in demand then perhaps your boss will treat you with a little more respect.

It may not be right but it's the way the world works.

misskool

I didn't post any thoughts/comments as I have given up on rational debate

pingu2209

1. Immigrant workers can earn at least 3 times in Britain doing an unskilled labouring type job, than they can in their own country doing a professional job.

2. Immigrant workers tend to rent properties such as 3 beds and have at least 6 or more people living in them, so sharing the rent and costs. Therefore, earning a minimum wage but having very low living costs. What they save they can eventually send/take back to their own country, which has a much lower cost of living so the money saved goes further.

3. People in this country either

a) already have a family and home so, if made redundant, can not afford to do the minimum wage jobs even if offered them.

b) young people without a family or own home realise that minimum wage jobs will never enable them to afford a family or own home. It is not like the minimum wage jobs have an obvious career path where they will eventually earn more money to afford a family and home. The majority are dead end jobs.

Young people are looking for the jobs that have the ability to earn a decent wage after a few years.

michaels

4. Have the choice of not working and being housed and fed off the labour of those who do work and pay taxes. More and more we are seeing the working poor complaining that those who chose not to work have a better lifestyle. Given that thee jobs would not exist at a salary that British employees would accept (as stated above if UK farm produce cost more it would just be substituted for imports) then it might as well be immigrants who are doing the jobs as no one? And the rest of us have to accept that if we want to offer a benefits system that allows the unskilled to choose not to work then we will have to pay for it. Said unskilled have been offered education and training to gain the skills needed to command a higher waged position and have been either unable or unwilling to benefit. Taxpayers need to stop moaning and accept that there will always be a section of society in this position and the richer we become the larger this proportion will be - or vote for radical change in the benefits system.

Apologies for sounding slightly to the right of Attila the Hun this morning.

pingu2209 wrote: »

3. People in this country either

a) already have a family and home so, if made redundant, can not afford to do the minimum wage jobs even if offered them.

b) young people without a family or own home realise that minimum wage jobs will never enable them to afford a family or own home. It is not like the minimum wage jobs have an obvious career path where they will eventually earn more money to afford a family and home. The majority are dead end jobs.