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I can't believe that people think that this is ethical. It's basically akin to stealing - it doesn't matter to you whether the product is a good one; people are simply lying in order to rip companies off. MSE was set up to protect consumers - this thread has a completely different agenda.0
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jmds wrote:I can't believe that people think that this is ethical. It's basically akin to stealing - it doesn't matter to you whether the product is a good one; people are simply lying in order to rip companies off. MSE was set up to protect consumers - this thread has a completely different agenda.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.0 -
jmds wrote:I can't believe that people think that this is ethical. It's basically akin to stealing - it doesn't matter to you whether the product is a good one; people are simply lying in order to rip companies off. MSE was set up to protect consumers - this thread has a completely different agenda.
Off you pop then.....we caught you looking in here though!
:rotfl:If we all lived to the rule 'an eye for an eye', the world would be blind...0 -
jmds wrote:I can't believe that people think that this is ethical. It's basically akin to stealing - it doesn't matter to you whether the product is a good one; people are simply lying in order to rip companies off. MSE was set up to protect consumers - this thread has a completely different agenda.
TMFs are promotions just like any other - why shouldn't we take part? I bought a bottle of juice, on it they say I could get my money back by telling them what I liked or disliked about it. What exactly is so unethical?
I do not appreciate the assumption that we are all "stealing" and "lying" to get the products - it's called market research. Compenies want to know what people think about their products, and we tell them. It does matter to us whether a product is a good one; the difference is, there's always room for improvement in any product and we tell them what it is.
And anyway, we're "ripping off" these poor companies? A couple of quid I have had back from Unilever, Procter & Gamble or Coca Cola is hardly going to make a difference to their profits! :rotfl:
We're quite aware of what MSE is all about; another MSE principle is being nice to other Moneysavers, instead of labelling them as liars and thieves. :cool:0 -
i buy the products and if i happen not to like it i will tell the companies and if they happen to give me the money back so much the better
i don't like vimto so i'm not going buy the product as it would only go to waste
but i was geninuely uphappy about the pizza and the mouthwashDebt of £6300 cleared in 5 years, now ZERO0 -
benedictadams wrote:i buy the products and if i happen not to like it i will tell the companies and if they happen to give me the money back so much the better
i don't like vimto so i'm not going buy the product as it would only go to waste
but i was geninuely uphappy about the pizza and the mouthwash
I completely agree with you I will not be trying the vimto either. I am new to this but feel perfectly ok with it - cheese hated the smell - passed it to a friend/Pizza - it was not as good as our takeaway/Toothpaste - tasted like fishermen's friend/actimel - I did not like it, OH did so actually worked in their favour as I am now buying it regularly for him.
Thanks to all the genuine posters, hunting TMF's out make the supermarket trip almost like a treasure hunt:DThe birds of sadness may fly overhead but don't let them nest in your hair0 -
Dustykitten wrote:I completely agree with you I will not be trying the vimto either. I am new to this but feel perfectly ok with it - cheese hated the smell - passed it to a friend/Pizza - it was not as good as our takeaway/Toothpaste - tasted like fishermen's friend/actimel - I did not like it, OH did so actually worked in their favour as I am now buying it regularly for him.
Thanks to all the genuine posters, hunting TMF's out make the supermarket trip almost like a treasure hunt:D
Don't get me wrong - it's not people that use TMFs genuinely like you that I have a problem with. You, the previous poster - Benedict, and I'm sure a huge majority of people that use them don't abuse the offers. Where I do think it's wrong is where people buy the products with no intention of trying them out properly - much like a number of people on this thread have done with things like the 99 Stains guarantee.0 -
jmds wrote:Don't get me wrong - it's not people that use TMFs genuinely like you that I have a problem with. You, the previous poster - Benedict, and I'm sure a huge majority of people that use them don't abuse the offers. Where I do think it's wrong is where people buy the products with no intention of trying them out properly - much like a number of people on this thread have done with things like the 99 Stains guarantee.
Thanks for your opinion but others have an opinion too. Try Me Free's are exactly that - 'FREE'. Money Back Guarantee's are exactly that - 'a guarantee of your money back'. It is a real shame that you have issues with people on this threadIf we all lived to the rule 'an eye for an eye', the world would be blind...0 -
Dormouse wrote:I really don't see the problem.
TMFs are promotions just like any other - why shouldn't we take part? I bought a bottle of juice, on it they say I could get my money back by telling them what I liked or disliked about it. What exactly is so unethical?
I do not appreciate the assumption that we are all "stealing" and "lying" to get the products - it's called market research. Compenies want to know what people think about their products, and we tell them. It does matter to us whether a product is a good one; the difference is, there's always room for improvement in any product and we tell them what it is.
Sorry, my mistake in not clarifying what I meant for which I apologise. I draw an absolute distinction between two types of ways of using TMFs. First is where someone abides by the spirit of the offer - buys the product, tries it out and if for any reason they're not happy with it claims the money back. Secondly, there's a number of people in this thread who have claimed the money back on products they haven't been unhappy with or haven't even tried.
It's the second group I believe are behaving unethically and there are quite a few posts on this thread where people haven't provided and of that market research data that we agree is so useful.Dormouse wrote:And anyway, we're "ripping off" these poor companies? A couple of quid I have had back from Unilever, Procter & Gamble or Coca Cola is hardly going to make a difference to their profits! :rotfl:
I think you're being a little naive here. Of course a couple of quid here and there isn't going to hurt a large company. However, the cost of refunding the cost isn't just the value of the cheque - it's the cost of the process behind raising it in the first place as well. Some companies have done research that suggests that the process costs about £50-75 a time to run. I'd be interested to know how many people use TMFs. My only concern is that if lots of people do it unfairly it may cost the company a lot without delivering any value which will lead to cutbacks - and they won't be in shareholders' dividends or the fat cats' salaries but more likely it'll mean some low paid call centre worker loses their job...Dormouse wrote:We're quite aware of what MSE is all about; another MSE principle is being nice to other Moneysavers, instead of labelling them as liars and thieves. :cool:
Ah, I'm lovely really.
Honestly though, I didn't mean to give the impression that I was calling everybody a liar or thief. Like I've explained above, I'm sure most people abide by the spirit of the deal and that's great. I'd just hope that others may realise that just because you can claim the money back on some of these offers doesn't mean that you should.0 -
'Liar and thief'?
I prefer 'money saver'.
Companies offering 'try me free' have large marketing departments who believe this sort of promotion will profit the brand in the long run. I take advantage of their offers with a clear conscience and full wallet.0
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