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Were looing to offer a house share for a single mother and her daughter

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  • Errata
    Errata Posts: 38,230 Forumite
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    if i am unhappy with any particular posts i will do as i bloody well please my friend, Martins valuable time will be better spent monitoring some of the freaks that call themselves help rather than letting "wanna be martins to do his bidding" if you catch my drift, im sure he would be appalled at some of the accusations thrown needlessly in this direction over recent days , so please excuse me if im a little defensive or abrasive.

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  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    Vader123 wrote: »
    Oh please do! Please please please do.

    Theres a consensus of people here that feel that the "benefits board" is a staging ground for inproper help, potental fraud and just down right bad advice.

    Merely the mention of "Martin" is usually enough to get a thread locked and referred to abuse, but I think your thoughts and intentions towards this young lady is in the minority.

    Anyone agree please "thank" this post so there is at least some board agreement on the issues here that the OP feels he should get advice for.

    Vader
    I agree with most of your post apart from the bit I have highligthed so I must be in the minority, I do believe that the OP is trying to help the lady in question nothing sorid or likewise. He believes he is helping her, but he is also helping himself as if he felt this lady really had nothing else he and his wife would do this without the need for money.
    *SIGH*
    :D
  • Vader123 wrote: »
    Oh please do! Please please please do.

    Theres a consensus of people here that feel that the "benefits board" is a staging ground for inproper help, potental fraud and just down right bad advice.

    Merely the mention of "Martin" is usually enough to get a thread locked and referred to abuse, but I think your thoughts and intentions towards this young lady is in the minority.

    Anyone agree please "thank" this post so there is at least some board agreement on the issues here that the OP feels he should get advice for.

    Vader

    sunshine, you dont know me, your not likely to know me and that is why your all to ready to offer assumption and make unfounded, TRULY misguided and in-proper statements, you hide behind a keyboard criticizing people who are wanting to help someone, people like you make me die, your quite clearly all about exercising your right to suggest inappropriate behavior rather than actually helping or lending coherent advise, who on earth do you think you are?
    I would suggest your a lonely little man with an insignificant role in life that feels duty bound to offend rather than be constructive in your opinion.
    Let me perhaps offer you a little advise as its painfully obvious to me that you might make an appointment at the local proctologist, and have them remove the both the great big chip which lays on your overweight shoulders and and the rather large stick that seems to be firmly wedged in your rather roomy posterior, MOREOVER, i would like to take this opportunity to thank you for reporting me to the various bodies you felt it necessary to, i would suggest that, should these people indeed wish to pursue any course of unsubstantiated fact-finding that you might have suggested to them, it is you who would have caused the public purse to be squandered, but i'm sure you would have already thought of that! as im sure a man with your succinct perception and boundless if not Holmesian accumin would have left no stone unturned prior to your instruction.
  • Badger_Lady
    Badger_Lady Posts: 6,264 Forumite
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    Point 2,
    Because there is not family connection between the young lady in question and her daughter, the young lady would be classed as a Lodger with Dependent.

    That's fabulous news - well done. It does indeed depend on the LHA that you reside under, and mine would not be this lenient (they didn't go into details about the type of "relationship" that they assumed I had with my female lodger but imagination will suffice!).

    Please don't ever take word-of-mouth as fact, that's not the point of it. The point is to hear other people's experiences and prepare yourself through them. It's good news that you can recieve housing benefit for your friend, but there was a genuine risk that you might not have been able to, and I only took the time to write to you so that you would be aware.

    It sounds like perhaps you should go to the CAB straight away in future, rather than take this anonymous community too seriously. I hope you haven't felt as stressed as you sound.
    Mortgage | £145,000Unsecured Debt | [strike]£7,000[/strike] £0 Lodgers | |
  • blue_monkey_2
    blue_monkey_2 Posts: 11,435 Forumite
    Yep, your appointment sounds like the one that thay gave us when we first approached them too. However, when we went through our options and told them that we had no other options then they told us what we had to do to ensure we was housed.

    Did they also tell you that they were DUTY BOUND to give her somewhere to live if the bailiff was due?? No?? They told us there was nowhere too - myself, hubby and 2 children were packed to live in a hostel and then 3 days before the bailiff was due we got the keys to our beautiful 3 bedroom house with 150ft garden. Lucky us, we are here forever and have roots here now. There was 'nothing' until the bailiff was actually due. We would have gone to the hostel though. Regardless of what they tell you they do have places for those being made homeless.

    You know what, they will try EVERYTHING to get this lady somewhere else to live so they do not have to house her. However you've already told them you'll have her so they'll not take her seriously now anyway.

    However, please be aware that the 'binding tenancy agreement' could also leave you having to take her to court if she then refuses to leave your home or causes a nuisance in the future. You cannot tell her off like a naughty girl, she is a tenant. Let's hope there are not a string of men coming home or her coming home too late/getting too drunk too often. You'll have to give her appropriate notice and she will now have a right to stay. She is a tenant and can do as she pleases - this is where the relationship changes. Regardless of what you think it does.

    How do I know this - my mother had to take us to court as she was our landlord. Hard? Yes, but with nowhere to live you do what you have to do to secure somewhere for your children.

    Let's hope that she is a good lodger because somehow or another she got pregnant in the first place at a young age when she had nowhere to live.

    Good luck to all of you, I guess you are going to need it.

    Oh, and around here the waiting list is something like 10-15 years but we got a house within 10 days. How did that happen.....?? Because the council were DUTY BOUND to house us.
  • terryw
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    Blue Monkey

    Your post is completely out of order regardless of any problems that you have in the past.
    "If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools"
    Extract from "If" by Rudyard Kipling
  • IF this lady has approached the council then she will know that even though she has been given notice she has to remain in the property. She will be taken to court. She should stay. landlord will instruct the bailiff then to change the locks. At this time she will be considered homeless and she WILL be rehoused. owever, it might be a hostel but that is no different to what you are offering her so that should not put her off.

    If she has approached the council as you suggest then all of this would have been explained to her. Her landlord cannot evict her from the property without a court order - MORE IMPORTANTLY - should she choose to leave then she has NOT made herself homeless and the council will have no obligation to house her. If she stays and get's evicted then she will be rehoused.

    You need to tell her this and leave her in the house because otherwise she is going to be bumming rooms from people for a long time. This way she, and her child, will get long term secure housing and will never be in that situation again.
    TBH the council probably would not have divulged this much info, in my experience they try to fob you off with any excuse they can find
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    terryw wrote: »
    Blue Monkey

    Your post is completely out of order regardless of any problems that you have in the past.

    I don't know if I'm missing anything but I can't really see what you object to in BM's post.
  • I don't know if I'm missing anything but I can't really see what you object to in BM's post.

    me either, BM is offering advice from having been in a similar situation.

    As I said in an earlier post, when faced with eviction, I was moved into a flat that had been empty for some 6 months, so its amazing what can happen in an emergency!!!

    GP I understand you are doing your best for this girl, but keep pushing the LA to find her her own place, maybe restrict the tenancy to only 6 months? that way she could get herself a bit more organised in a safe enviroment and be ready to move on. :)
    Be who you are, say what you feel, those who mind don't matter, those who matter don't mind.
    They say that talking to yourself is a sign of mental illness. So I talk to the cats instead.
  • viktory
    viktory Posts: 7,635 Forumite
    I don't know if I'm missing anything but I can't really see what you object to in BM's post.

    Thank goodness - i thought it was just me!
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