Were looing to offer a house share for a single mother and her daughter

Errata

If the OP wants to help they should support the young woman in finding secure accommodation by way of Shelter/LA/HA.
Inviting someone to live for no money in a spare room or through a licence as a lodger gives them no security at all.
Perhaps the OP can explain why he wants to provide this young family with meals, rather than giving them free run of the kitchen and space in the cupboards and fridge for food, pots and pans. Perhaps the OP can explain why taxpayers should foot the cost of the meals he provides.

Dreamer2010

Hi GEORGYPORGY,
Im sorry if i ask anything which you have already answered or you already have answers for and apoligies for the ramble which is going to follow but i hope it helps you.

Housing Benefit will not cover meals, utilities or maintenance charges ONLY rent if any of these things are included in rent they will be deducted as such i dont see how she will be better off she will be using the money she does get to pay you, how much would you want, what would you consider enough to cover the cost?

I am a single working mother living alone, in my opinion your help would be better directed to helping her get a place of her own, i know in the short term you offer seems kind but she will be at a bigger disadvantage living with you as apose to getting all the information needed to leave her current home and move. I know the benefit system can seem scary as well as if she is being asked to leave with no where to go but as a pp stated she is within her right to stay, no its not nice but it may well be nessasary to put her in a better position to have her own space for her and her little girl that is priceless if im honest as a mother there is nothing worse than that feeling of being a guest, kids making a mess, crying in the night refusing someone dinner ect

Things are much less scary when you know your options and what it going to happen, has she reserched her options?

If you want to help her which you say you do i would suggest you help her look into her rights in regards to leaving her current house, help with a deposit on somewhere new some council offer help with the deposit, you could be her garentor (sp) which would really help her get somewhere private rent.

Reading prev post a seed of doubt has been planted in my mind as to your motive for this offer to the girl and so i just have to end this post saying, a mother instinct is to protect there child for all harm inc. homelessness i really hope you are not preying on these fears to your own advantage.

x

missmontana

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

I'd agree with this if he was facilitating the young woman herself doing it. As the OP himself has said, she's not !!!!!!(!) so there's no earthly reason why someone (not even a relative) should be doing this for a 21 year old adult.

Oh I agree, she should be doing this herself, but if he wants the answers then he should make an effort to find out! Then lets see if he's still willing to offer her the room...

Dreamer is spot on.

Errata has a very good point and so does Bestpud!

GEORGYPORGY

For all you lovely people who would like to be kept abreast of this situation, i and the young lady in question have both spoken to the local C.A.B, our local housing trust, and of course the Local council, i have spoken a senior housing officer and also head of department for H.O.M,
As a matter of caution and academic interest i would like to offer the following addition to the already hotly debated thread created some days ago.
It would appear that several councils around the country attend to the matter of housing in many differing manners, i am speaking specifically about my home town and the city council that is dealing with this particular situation,.
Point 1,
Due to the size of the property in question, there is indeed no requirement for a license for house of multiple occupancy,
Point 2,
Because there is not family connection between the young lady in question and her daughter, the young lady would be classed as a Lodger with Dependent.
Point 3,
The lodger and her dependent will be required to furnish the council with the usual legally binding tenancy agreement.
Point 4,
As the claimant has a dependent she will be entitled to whatever benefit the city council deems as right and proper as the claimant will enjoy more than the use of 2 rooms within the dwelling.
Point 5,
And for your information, the young lady and her dependent daughter have been on the local housing register for some 18 months and are slowly moving towards securing a property of their own, however, due to the shortage of council accommodations and housing authority property in this particular area this passage of time could be many months whether she was abiding in a hostel, bedsit or single room hotel.
Point 5,
The local council housing officer has offered to assist the young lady in drawing up both the housing benefit forms and the tenancy agreement and a covering letter to allow for both party's to terminate the tenancy should the situation require it after a short minimum period of 6 months.

I did indeed take the liberty of printing off the whole, and complete thread up till 11.00am this morning, and i must say that she was a little aggrieved at many of the attitudes on show and has advised me to perhaps get in touch with Mr Lewis as some of the so called "advice" is indeed nothing short of mindless accusation and unproven and unsubstantiated drivel and goes a long way to prove that not everything that is written on the internet and is called advice is always true and should be taken as gospel.
for all those who indeed attempt to assist with advice, many thanks, some good points were raised and i thank you for your input, for all those who made ridiculous suggestions, crazy and thoughtless and even nasty assumption as to motive etc etc, and i wont waste my or your time in repeating them, what goes around does indeed come around and i hope you all find happiness and security in whatever you do and whatever you want to achieve.

Fire_Fox

If you are unhappy with the content of any post you should use the abuse button (red triangle, bottom right hand corner), please do not waste Martin's valuable time when there is a very effective system in place.

KimYeovil

I am somewhat confused by this entire thread. There may well be a history I am unaware of (and can not be bothered to trawl for) that would trigger me to join the pig pile.

But.

Rent her the rooms. Charge her rent for the room/s. Do not bundle anything other than rent. From her income support/jsa make the usual agreements for her to pay an appropriate share of the bills.

Plenty of people would much rather lodge in a home than by themselves when waiting for alternative accommodation. Or even do so long term. Most owner-occupied homes will be in a better state than those wholly rented out. Plenty of people would rather break bread and socialise as a family or friend than in a grotty private let. Plenty of 21 year olds would prefer to be in a home.

As far as I can see she will be as overcrowded here as she will be anywhere else. Probably more overcrowded. So unless she is a cynical monster who wants to skip the queue then I see no reason for her not to lodge here.

GEORGYPORGY

if i am unhappy with any particular posts i will do as i bloody well please my friend, Martins valuable time will be better spent monitoring some of the freaks that call themselves help rather than letting "wanna be martins to do his bidding" if you catch my drift, im sure he would be appalled at some of the accusations thrown needlessly in this direction over recent days , so please excuse me if im a little defensive or abrasive.

GEORGYPORGY

KimYeovil wrote: »

I am somewhat confused by this entire thread. There may well be a history I am unaware of (and can not be bothered to trawl for) that would trigger me to join the pig pile.

But.

Rent her the rooms. Charge her rent for the room/s. Do not bundle anything other than rent. From her income support/jsa make the usual agreements for her to pay an appropriate share of the bills.

Plenty of people would much rather lodge in a home than by themselves when waiting for alternative accommodation. Or even do so long term. Most owner-occupied homes will be in a better state than those wholly rented out. Plenty of people would rather break bread and socialise as a family or friend than in a grotty private let. Plenty of 21 year olds would prefer to be in a home.

As far as I can see she will be as overcrowded here as she will be anywhere else. Probably more overcrowded. So unless she is a cynical monster who wants to skip the queue then I see no reason for her not to lodge here.

thank you.

DX2

KimYeovil wrote: »

Plenty of people would much rather lodge in a home than by themselves when waiting for alternative accommodation. Or even do so long term. Most owner-occupied homes will be in a better state than those wholly rented out. Plenty of people would rather break bread and socialise as a family or friend than in a grotty private let. Plenty of 21 year olds would prefer to be in a home.

Which is fine but as has already been stated the OP is doing her no favours as the LA will not class her or her child as needing suitable accommodation, she will carry on sitting on waiting lists for years to come as she will be adequately housed with the OP and his wife. Whereas if things were left as they are she would be classed as high priority on the housing list.

Vader123

GEORGYPORGY wrote: »

and has advised me to perhaps get in touch with Mr Lewis as some of the so called "advice" is indeed nothing

Oh please do! Please please please do.

Theres a consensus of people here that feel that the "benefits board" is a staging ground for inproper help, potental fraud and just down right bad advice.

Merely the mention of "Martin" is usually enough to get a thread locked and referred to abuse, but I think your thoughts and intentions towards this young lady is in the minority.

Anyone agree please "thank" this post so there is at least some board agreement on the issues here that the OP feels he should get advice for.

Vader