Weezl's phase 1- recipe testing and frugalisation- come one, come all!

Murrell

weezl74 wrote: »

Thanks! It sounds a bit like the way they have to say, may contain traces of nuts on anything now, even if nothing with nuts in is made at the factory.... tricky times for food producers due to our risk averse society



Oh thanks for agreeing to look the planner over. I'm sure you'll easily be able to spot a deficit. How about a brazil nut and pumpkin seed butter for omegas and selenium?

(on our oaty enriched toast:o:))

Yes that sounds good for a nut butter. The recomendation is 10 a week for 1 person to get the selenium required(not actually 2 a day, thats just what I do to make it easier!). I have just weighed 10 brazil nuts and they weigh 37g. Tesco sell 100g bags for 94p. Adsa are cheaper per 100g (68p) but you need to buy 250g to get this price and they don't seem to have 100g bags. So that would be 148 for the 4 people. But perhaps we can get away with 100g and find the other 48 in small amounts in vegetables. We shall have to see, if not at least they are getting a good amount.

Oaty enriched toast? Whats this, sounds good?

Sandra
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weezl74

Murrell wrote: »

Oaty enriched toast? Whats this, sounds good?

Sandra
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oooh yes it's loverleeee!

(a way of disguising some of the hot oaty dooo dah :rotfl:)

Murrell

Just had a quick google and yes the UK soil contains very little selenium. At least it didn't say none! Source: http://www.rsc.org/Education/EiC/issues/2006Nov/LittleSelenium.asp

Sandra
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ceridwen

grandma247 wrote: »

Years ago I read a few of adele davis books on nutrition and although some of what she said is disputed she was right on a lot of things. First she said there is no substitute good enough for real wholefoods. Also she said in one of her earliest books that although she could not prove it then she was sure it would be found that margarine was bad for you. It took probably 30+ years but we now know trans fats are bad.
I personally feel we should all eat natural "proper" food as much as possible but with moderation in all things.
I bought a pressure canner from America so I could put food by and know exactly what was in it.
I have been pleasantly suprised at how close to fresh cooked the taste and texture of food is and there are no nasties including salt. Anyone who wants salt in our house has to put it on their food themselves I use a minimum in just a few foods that I cook and never add it to veg.

I remember Adele Davis from my formative years:) - wasnt one of her major books "Lets Eat Right to Keep Fit"? Read and taken very much to heart...:D - and a useful reminder to me personally to remember that my "gut instinct" about things has served me (very) well over the years. So much so that - if asked to say the major things I am thankful about over the years - listening to my "gut instinct" is right up there at the top of the list...

weezl74

ceridwen wrote: »

then I will be helping these darn supermarkets sell us a load of junk food - AND helping these blind idiot Government Ministers not deal with the root of the problem".

Right at this minute - my head hurts:eek::eek::eek:

oh dear poor you. I'm sorry C with my post earlier I was trying to help, not to make you feel worse.

I wish I could understand more about your feeling that this is junk food.

Can we look at it this way: we looked a few pages back at fortifying flour using calcium derived from eggshells. The flour mills have already done this in part for us already.

Does it seem really different from that? It's just that I thought you thought it was a neat idea before.:) But now I feel like it really offends you.

I know if we were chatting in person in a cafe I'd be much more able to understand, and I'm sorry I'm being dumb

ceridwen

SusanC wrote: »

It's worth bearing in mind Bob and Shirley probably weren't eating a home-made/whole-foods diet anyway so even if this is not considered by everyone to be an "ideal" diet, it is still probably significantly better than what they had (and presumably the health impact of getting rid of the debt will be more significant than the health impact of a whole foods diet).

...and this is where...right at this very moment...I am feeling so torn (in my case because I know JUST how many sleepless nights being in debt caused me personally - but at least none of those "sleepless moments" were spent on agonising about bad personal financial choices - because that was never the reason for being in that position in the first place).

ceridwen

Fivenations wrote: »

Sadly most Parmesan and grana is not vegetarian as they are made with animal rennet, at least they are where my father comes from.There may be vege versions but I expect they come with a price tag. When my mother first came to the UK in the 50's she would dry cheddar cheese as Parmesan was very hard to get outside of London. So, as my contribution to this project, since I cannot test many recipes, I will experiment to see if I can concoct a tasty, veggie, frugal. alternative.

Re the Marrowfat pea curry - I do recall it was made with tinned peas to which I added what I now know is a Tarka - fried onion, garlic, ginger and curry spices of your choice. I guess it was my first Dal before I new what a Dal was.

You could also turn the Risi e Bisi into a pilau by adding spices and sultanas/nuts, whatever you have lurking in the fridge.

A good contribution to this thread:T

artybear

Hello everyone,

I have had a crazy few days. Cardiff was lovely and the bay and ballet beautiful. However from there I had to get a train at 8 straight to London for a seminar at Sotherby's and now I'm home Im so tired I could cry.

Having a glass of wine then probably bed soon.

I have read the last few pages but cant remember what profound thoughts I wanted to say so this will have to do:

Weezl-you are a brill mummy who is about to pop-just give yourself a break (physical and mental) sometime!!!

Lesley- I am in awe of your spreadsheet skills and you ability to always focus on the important parts of the project!

Murrell-Wowie you are an awesum researcher and find topics of interest to me.

Cerdiwen-You are a real deep thinker and whilst I dont agree with some of your opinions (think they may be too ''out there'' for me) you really make me consdier society as whole in this project.

All recipe testers (I cant name you all Im sorry)- I wish I had your skills to bake and know exactly how to put ingredients together to make a lovely meal for your families.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that I'm so pleased to be part of a project that involves so many clever, thoughtful people. And I hope that no one loses sight of the fact this has been going little over a month-Rome wasn't built in a day and Britain will not be cheaply, healthily and yummily fed in a month!

Love artybearxxx

Murrell

Hi Weezl,

I am been meaning to ask you for about a week, since you posted comment on my blog. When you have time, can you please list the 18p way of getting your 5 a day? I knew you would know the answer, but didn't realise it was this low!

Ta love
Sandra
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ceridwen

ceridwen wrote: »

I remember Adele Davis from my formative years:) - wasnt one of her major books "Lets Eat Right to Keep Fit"? Read and taken very much to heart...:D - and a useful reminder to me personally to remember that my "gut instinct" about things has served me (very) well over the years. So much so that - if asked to say the major things I am thankful about over the years - listening to my "gut instinct" is right up there at the top of the list...

Just found:

http://www.adelledavis.org/index2.htm

ie the Adelle Davis website.

She was WAY ahead of her time.

Some things have changed a bit since then - ie that granola recipe that I saw on the initial webpage includes soyflour...and these days...we know that soyabeans are HIGHLY likely to contain/have been contaminated with genetically-modified stuff. But Adelle could not have known back then that this would come onto the scene after her death.:( Albert Bates also made "heavy play" of soya products initially I believe - and could not have known that fact either.

Two good reasons why we have to make up our mind what constitutes a healthy diet - but then maintain constant vigilance (in case suppliers and/or the Government muck up our plans).