Lush...urghhh

OnTheUp_2-2

I just wanted to have a little moan about Lush. I purchased for the first time recently and got the free grab bag. Its amazing how they go on about Organiv this Fairtrade that and being natural blah blah blah..

First of all after a good indulge, both my husband and I got loads of spots every weher, faces backs, chest etc yuk

I find it hilarious how they try to sell you every product in the store with "oh this is just the best" "my boyfriend/mother/brother uses this and its worked for them"

Finally. Natural my !!!!!. Second ingredient on lots of the stuff SLS?? A known skin irritant, cause of excema and a harsh chemical, or how about a good dose of parabens

Disgustingly I was even recommended certain products for my 4 year old daughter with v.sensitive skin and the product contained parabens, SLS & Lauryl Betaine

Hardly the image it portrays. My recommendation is to look elsewhere at companies like green people

voiceofreason

....and, of course, the fact that every one of their stores smells like a tart's boudoir, and makes your teeth itch from twenty paces with the smell.

OnTheUp_2-2

Thats what alot of my friends think.. to be honest I do love the smell and initial feel of their stuff but after a couple of days my body is not impressed!!

Its a real shame they felt the need to remove SLS from some, but not all of their products. How does that work, oh we have decided that SLS is not uitable for our products, but hey were gonna keep it in some!!

Gigervamp

How do you know that it wasn't the essential oils that are in their products that caused the rash? Just because something's *natural* doesn't mean that it won't irritate or cause a reaction. The citrus essential oils are known sensitisers for example.

However, I do agree that Lush market their products as *natural* when they're far from it, but I would be wary of other companies that also sell so called *natural* cosmetics, especially anything containing water and no preservative.

squack

these companies with their overpowering stench are a cancer on our high streets

brettcta

squack wrote: »

these companies with their overpowering stench are a cancer on our high streets

that's maybe a bit melodramatic don't you think?

squack

brettcta wrote: »

that's maybe a bit melodramatic don't you think?

just the way squack sees the world sorry :money:

brettcta

talking about yourself in the third person?

are you ok? or are you a bit squackers?

cyberbob

OnTheUp wrote: »

product contained parabens, SLS & Lauryl Betaine

You'll be lucky to find any products without these ingrediants

Laurel Betaine is a permitted additive in organic products (Soil Association standard 50.5.3).

Parabens well there has been so many scare stories with very little solid evidence and some very dodgy science. Lush's own site explains it well
https://www.lush.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=17221:parabens-the-facts

As for SLS well most companies keep that to a minimum and are searching for replacements

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/12/sls-free-lush-shampoo-bars.php

Many organic and natural ingredients will cause rashes and reactions

biscit

Gigervamp wrote: »

How do you know that it wasn't the essential oils that are in their products that caused the rash? Just because something's *natural* doesn't mean that it won't irritate or cause a reaction. The citrus essential oils are known sensitisers for example.

However, I do agree that Lush market their products as *natural* when they're far from it, but I would be wary of other companies that also sell so called *natural* cosmetics, especially anything containing water and no preservative.

Oh don't be all pleasant, reasonable and sensible- doesn't win you any friends round here.

I thought Sodium Laureth suphate was the chemical name for soap. It's certainly an organic compound. This has been educating.

Gigervamp

Thanks for posting that Lush link, I hadn't seen that. For years I've been trying to explain to people why the use of preservatives in cosmetics is necessary and why the scare stories about parabens should be ignored. I'm glad Lush have posted a sensible, intelligent article about it.

I just wish people wouldn't fall for the greenwash marketing hype without doing some research. And by research, I mean reading peer reviewed scientific studies, not scare stories on sites where they're trying to sell you unsafe cosmetics.

Synthetic preservatives have been tested thoroughly and are used in tiny amounts. The recommended usage rate for the majority of them is just 0.5-1.5% of the total formulation and they are absolutely needed in any product that contains water, (lotions etc) otherwise it will only be a short while before they become unsafe to use because of the pathogens that have grown in the product.

If you really don't want to use synthetic ingredients, make your own cosmetics and stick to simple things such as bath bombs (2 or 3 parts bicarb to 1 part citric acid) and body butters (60% hard oil such as shea or mango butter and 40% liquid oil such as sweet almond).