Feed In Tariffs(FIT) Announced.

yakky58

Quick questions:
1) I have installed a 2hwH PV panels in 2006. Will I qualify for the new FIT's?
2) I generate around 2000 kwH a year so will I get 200 X 41.3p?
3) My export contract with SSE is I get the same price per kwH for export as those I use, thus if I export 100 in a quarter they deduct 100 from usage I pay the difference. Does this remain true?

Thanks.

Mcfi5dhc

yakky58 wrote: »

Quick questions:
1) I have installed a 2hwH PV panels in 2006. Will I qualify for the new FIT's? No, we both get 9p a unit (I installed mine in 2008)
2) I generate around 2000 kwH a year so will I get 200 X 41.3p? No, 2000 x 9p assuming you actually do 2000 units (which seems very high for what I presume is a 2kwp system), so £180 instead of £826!
3) My export contract with SSE is I get the same price per kwH for export as those I use, thus if I export 100 in a quarter they deduct 100 from usage I pay the difference. Does this remain true? No one knows for sure - none of the suppliers have so far said how they will implement FIT, they may just give you the cash.

Thanks.

Maybe you and I will get lucky, and the nicer companies as a gesture of goodwill, will pay the people who installed solar PV to be green / "energy secure" the same as those who are just installing now for pure financial reasons (plus other reasons) . At least one has hinted they may, but don't let that give you false hope.

As I state above, it would have to be a gesture of goodwill, and they could retract it any time.

kkjamor

If you are interested in Renewable Energy have a look at the Good Energy website - the ONLY 100% renewable electricity supplier - and yes I work there. A truely ethical company.

yakky58

Thanks for the feedback, I'll contact SSE and see what they say. If its not that great then I can always look elsewhere.

Mcfi5dhc

I have no affiliation with "Good Energy" but their comments below, and commitment for existing people are very encouraging:

From their website:
Renewable electricity supplier Good Energy has announced it will continue to pay its existing accredited small generators 15p a unit for all their electricity, well above the rate of 9p set by the government in its new Feed-in Tariff.

Under the government’s Feed-in Tariff, announced on Monday, the higher payment rates of up to 41.3p will only apply to new generators who installed their technology after 15th July 2009. Those pioneering generators in the UK who installed their technology before that date will only get 9p a unit under the government FiT.

And Good Energy says the plans discriminate against its existing home generators so it will continue to pay 15p a unit for the next year for accredited generators, and will be lobbying to get the legislation changed.

Juliet Davenport, Good Energy founder and CEO, said: “It’s outrageous that the new FiT only pays the highest reward to new generators – Good Energy believes that the early adopters of microgen technology should also be recognised for their pioneering attitude and taking a lead. That’s why we’ve decided to continue paying our existing accredited HomeGen generators 15p a unit for all the electricity they generate and lobby to change the government’s mind.”

kkjamor

:j :T www.goodenergy.co.uk
or www.generateyourown.co.uk

snowcat53

freddix wrote: »

PV costs will vary by a huge amount. A domestic installation of a good quality panel may well cost c. £4,500 per kW installed.

Well for installation compared to this Good energy are expensive. They quote an installled price for solar PV on their desktop survey of £12,200 +vat for 2.16kWp (12 panel, 16 m2), plus scaffolding , plus AC works, plus extra if clay or slate roof .

Cardew

Mcfi5dhc wrote: »

Maybe you and I will get lucky, and the nicer companies as a gesture of goodwill, will pay the people who installed solar PV to be green / "energy secure" the same as those who are just installing now for pure financial reasons (plus other reasons) . At least one has hinted they may, but don't let that give you false hope.

As I state above, it would have to be a gesture of goodwill, and they could retract it any time.

Two somewhat devious questions:

How much of your existing system would you need to remove and get a 'new' system fitted by an accredited installer that qualified for FITs?

If someone had, say, a 1kW system installed by an accredited installer, and at a latter date DIY fitted some extra panels(especially if you had some lying in the garage!!) presumably the output of these would attract FITs????

Cardew

freddix wrote: »

PV costs will vary by a huge amount. A domestic installation of a good quality panel may well cost c. £4,500 per kW installed. I have seen prices as low as £2,700 per kW installed for very large 500kW+ systems in commercial applications.

These prices are for *monocrystalline which have the highest efficiency and lowest degradation of output over their life time. Cheaper panels are available, but their efficiency will be less. You need to balance the cost VS efficiency.

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Nice post - as per usual!

As indicated in the post above, the prices I have seen posted on the internet and from a couple of enquiries, are somewhat higher than the £4,500 per kW installed; with perhaps £6,000 per kW being typical.

I have little doubt that your figure is more realistic for someone 'in the trade'. However Joe Public is at the mercy of accredited installers and they have licence to make a killing!!!

Mcfi5dhc

Cardew wrote: »

Two somewhat devious questions:

How much of your existing system would you need to remove and get a 'new' system fitted by an accredited installer that qualified for FITs?

If someone had, say, a 1kW system installed by an accredited installer, and at a latter date DIY fitted some extra panels(especially if you had some lying in the garage!!) presumably the output of these would attract FITs????

Amazingly enough, I have actually already asked this from the DECC.

Basically, all FIT panels have to be installed by accredited installers. So if I have 1.44kwp on my roof from july 08 (I have) and buy another 1.44kwp, I will get the full FIT on 50% of my output (no matter what it was) and 9p per unti for the other 50%.

Any DIY panels (if you are caught) will not qualify for any payment whatsoever, and you risk losing all FIT payments on your legit panels.

My DIY panel (accurately described as in the garage at the moment!) will be for off grid purposes, and no attempt will be made to get FITs from it (I know you weren't suggesting it, but some may have thought you were)