The giving up/cutting down alcohol thread part VI

Lurkio

fayjmck wrote: »

PS Lurks - Hadn't thought of moving it in a trailer - lol - aren't there special piano moving fairies then?

I wish there were

They keep coming up on our freecycle and I can't get one cos I can't get it back to Lurky Mansions..........

edit : pianos, not fairies...... :rotfl:

MountainOfDebt_2

Well, name your chilli and I'll have one for you.

I am actually in the fair country of yours working, just a fair bit more southerly

I grew some Bhut Jolokias last year. Hottest chillis in the world. I was advised to wear gloves whilst chopping, touching them, etc. So I put marigolds on, looked a proper charlie making a chilli wearing them. However, upon finishing the cooking, I took the gloves off and about an hour later, scratched my nose. Well, let's just say the reaction was pretty immediate and I thought I was going to faint from the pain. Genuinely. Hottest chilli I have ever made, tastiest too. was up for 6 hours in the night in pain mind...

I think they must have meant gardening gloves, not marigolds. Have 12 of them bad boys growing just now, going to use it for chilli oil.

I am defintely going to look at that peedie book: thanks for the advice.

Miss_Piggy_2

Funny thing about the allergies stuff...... I was a vege many moons ago so ate tons of quorn etc. I used to suffer from awful upset stomachs and my doctor finally diagnosed I'm allergic to mushrooms. Now I LOVE mushrooms but can't eat them in any quantity or I get a bad stomach. However, I used to see no problem in DRINKING to a level where I had the same sort of bad stomachs! Won't touch mushrooms though! Our psyches are very odd if you ask me.

Sorry...rambling again:o

P.s now really fancying a mushroom rissotto.....pah!!!!:(

Miss_Piggy_2

Lurkio wrote: »

I wish there were

They keep coming up on our freecycle and I can't get one cos I can't get it back to Lurky Mansions..........

Why does the PG tips advert keep popping into my head!?!? **shrugs shoulders**:rotfl::rotfl:

jo1972

MountainOfDebt wrote: »

Anymore I should know about?

Yes.....vimto = _pale_

Morning all :wave:

Lurkio

Miss_Piggy wrote: »

Why does the PG tips advert keep popping into my head!?!? **shrugs shoulders**:rotfl::rotfl:

cooo-eee Mr Shifter

jo1972 wrote: »

Yes.....vimto = _pale_

Morning all :wave:

:doh: :doh: you HAD to mention the 'V' word..... now all hell will be let loose


:wave: :wave:

maman

:wave: Morning all.

MountainOfDebt wrote: »

It's interesting to read about peoples belief of alcoholism as a disease. It intrigues me as I haven't ever thought like that.

My caveat is that I am new to this and whilst I recognise I have a drink problem, I am unsure it's not a recoverable position. I'd always imagine any situation I was in, I could get out of.

But having said that, I know, if I were true to myself, if my behaviour was consistently poor under drink, I'd not drink anymore. This journey I am going on, is going to enable me to find this out.

I said it sounded a bit bleak, as it really does: "You are an alcoholic, you will always be an alcoholic and therefore, you canot get rid of the disease". It just sounds bleak. To me.

I don't know, maybe I am being too child like in my thinking: it is early days for me. I don't crave drink, never have, it's just when I get going...

Not everyone on the thread thinks that MOD, me included. Personally I just want to cut down, break the habit of daily drinking and thanks to this thread I have. Occasionally we have debates (insert rolls eyes smiley) which verge on if you're not prepared to admit to being an alcoholic then please leave the room... But I haven't left yet:p

Hi MissP, I'm off to Edinburgh for a few days. Never been before and would welcome any must do/see/eat ideas.

Lurkio

Miss_Piggy wrote: »

...... I was a vege many moons ago so ate tons of quorn....

on the quob?

:rotfl: :rotfl:

maman

jo1972 wrote: »

Yes.....vimto = _pale_

Morning all :wave:

Morning jo, wondered where you were. How's life and how did yesterday go?

graemecarter

MountainOfDebt wrote: »

It's interesting to read about peoples belief of alcoholism as a disease. It intrigues me as I haven't ever thought like that.

I never thought of it like that. I just thought it was a weak will power. For me it is a mental obsession as well as a physical allergy. Mental obsession in that I'd think the night out was going to be rubbish if I couldn't drink, counting how many drinks everyone had, looking forward to a night out BECAUSE I was going to get on it, etc
Physical allergy in that once I had started drinking, I didn't want to stop. One was too many and a hundred not enough. I would rarely think 'I've had enough now, time to go home before I regret it" etc
I may not have had conscious cravings, but I would get myself in situations where I could justify drinking....

My caveat is that I am new to this and whilst I recognise I have a drink problem, I am unsure it's not a recoverable position. I'd always imagine any situation I was in, I could get out of.

That could well be the case for you. You may not have crossed the line.
For me, that was not the case for a long time. I always thought I had the capacity to stop or cut down. However, I never could seem to "stay stopped", and for years I lived in denial about my problem.
The fact that I couldn't stop drinking for a period of time AND be happy indicated to me I was a problem drinker.
When I knew more about how alcoholics felt (as opposed to how they drank) then I knew I was an alcoholic.

But having said that, I know, if I were true to myself, if my behaviour was consistently poor under drink, I'd not drink anymore. This journey I am going on, is going to enable me to find this out.

Good for you - be totally and brutally honest with yourself.
IF (and that is an IF) you have alcoholism, then the denial is so strong that you may not be able to see it.

I said it sounded a bit bleak, as it really does: "You are an alcoholic, you will always be an alcoholic and therefore, you canot get rid of the disease". It just sounds bleak. To me.

Seeing as it doesn't necessarily mean your life expectancy will go down and it will take out a lot of the negative consequences in your life surrounding drinking, it really isn't that bad. Self pity causes alcoholics to drink. Poor me, poor me turns to Pour me another drink.
I am alcoholic so I get on with it. That's a choice I make. My recovery from alcoholism is the best thing I have ever done. I mean that. Better (and more important) than everything else (kids included).

I canot eat turnips or chillis, one makes me swell up, the other gives me acute pain. I don't so much mind missing the turnips, but I miss chillis so occassionally have one, or 6. Can't hep myself. I also grow heaps of them, I have 70 plants coming through just now. I was rather hoping if I was an alcoholic, I could, occassionally, control myself in order I could have a glass or two of wine now and then. Like my chillis. Or at worst, like giving up smoking. I had a puff of one 6 months ago, in one moment of weakness, and it was horrible.

If you are not alcoholic, then you should be ok for that. I know for me, I cannot drink safely. I wouldn't automatically get blotto after a glass of wine, but I know it would set off the debating society in my head ("just the one won't hurt - you were fine last time", etc) and sure as eggs is eggs, I would be blotto in the near future.
I cannot afford moments of weakness - and I do things in my life to make sure I don't pick up a drink in those moments.
On the whole, complacency is the thing that gets people. If you read back on these threads, complacency has taken many people back to a drink (after they swore they would never drink again)

I don't know, maybe I am being too child like in my thinking: it is early days for me. I don't crave drink, never have, it's just when I get going...

It's a confusing subject, and different for all of us.
Early days and my head was full of thoughts. The fog lifted after a while

If you don't crave drink, then why do you drink at all? It seems you go on benders when you start drinking, so that is craving drink.

Good luck and keep posting - I enjoy reading what you say, and I am sure many people get a lot from it