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Why is it that going to University Costs so much.

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  • MissPop
    MissPop Posts: 948 Forumite
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    i think many people would suggest that i haven't yet reached maturity! here's hoping that lasts another decade or so!

    i'm done with troll feeding tonight - why someone with such low opinions of students wants to spend so much time on a 'student' board is beyond me!

    (although fwiw - my post phd research salary is fine - not as much as an accountant or solictor or clinician, but fine. if only there was some job security to go with it - that's the real killer!)
    Absolutely!

    iamana1ias, you really are being obnoxious and unwilling to consider other peoples' opinions on the matter, and it is incredibly irritating.

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  • poet123
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    iamana1ias wrote: »
    We discounted the heavily vocational courses earlier on in the thread ;)

    If you have no personal experience of attending Uni, or working in one it is very arrogant to dismiss all but students on vocational courses as dossers. Undoubtedly there are some who coast, but those people usually achieve less than adequate classifications of degree, and soon find they are less in demand than those with a first or a 2.1.





    Not at all. I work in very specialist education. No-one succeeds at this without huge amounts of life experience and years of experience. I'm the youngest but most senior in my department. It'll be a bit of a sideways but slightly upwards shift into the psychology side ;)

    And yet, despite your abilities, you were not getting promotion until you got a degree. Clearly to you that piece of paper was very valuable, nay vital.



    Funny that my brother, several years younger than me, hasn't found that :confused:

    He may have been lucky, or not work in a field where a degree is required, or he may find that like you he reaches a point where the grads are all overtaking him, and he has to knuckle down and get that piece of paper. Or, he may be luckier still and find he is appreciated solely on his day to day performance, and valued and promoted for that alone.
  • olly300
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    poet123 wrote: »
    He may have been lucky, or not work in a field where a degree is required, or he may find that like you he reaches a point where the grads are all overtaking him, and he has to knuckle down and get that piece of paper. Or, he may be luckier still and find he is appreciated solely on his day to day performance, and valued and promoted for that alone.

    You forgot to add there are very few jobs for life anymore. (In fact the ones I know require a degree.)

    There are quite a number of people who manage to climb the ladder in one company, get to a high position and get made redundant in their 30s and 40s.

    They suddenly find themselves completing with people who while they may have 3 years less experience than them, have a degree.

    In recessions employers can afford to be picky and I know many companies with global offices will only employ people with a degree. Hence I've worked with lots of people who have gone and got OU degrees for this reason, even though they were capable of doing the work without the piece of paper.
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  • Indie_Kid
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    JOBEN wrote: »
    a buget of £80 a week??

    It's only because I managed to save quite a bit of money before coming to uni and my loan was delayed, so paid around £700 out of my own money.
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  • iamana1ias wrote: »
    Damn Government graduate schemes :mad:


    I totally agree with this.:eek:

    The government can't just get enough of this and students thought that they have nowhere to turn to.

    I wish, one day, our system will work out for good. just wish:confused:
  • The_One_Who
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    I totally agree with this.:eek:

    The government can't just get enough of this and students thought that they have nowhere to turn to.

    I wish, one day, our system will work out for good. just wish:confused:

    Care to elaborate?

    I don't think there is anything really wrong with the fast track application system, especially considering how many applicants they receive. I don't really like the actual programme, but that's a separate issue.
  • I messed up at school and kind of floated around at college for three years doing various courses (which i has passed all of them but i was bored doing them). I only went to Uni because my employer at the time kept pestering me to go onto the manage programme and i saw myself at 40 being a store manager!

    I have got to to say that Uni is not just about getting a degree, its about learning things about yourself that you never new, being exposed to lots of different cultures meeting people you would not normally meet and discovering many new ideas. I had to take out the full loan, and i still worked at Uni, albeit part time in the first two years, therefore i was able to afford that little bit extra. (Not always alcohol - but real food!)

    Even though i am not in a grad job, or even a £20k job i have no regrets about going to Uni as i have come out a much stronger and more mature person and i would love to go back and do it again!
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  • iamana1ias wrote: »
    Now in the process of becoming an educational psychologist

    And you were commenting on 'useful' degrees? Pot, kettle?
  • Indie_Kid
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    And you were commenting on 'useful' degrees? Pot, kettle?

    How is being an ed psych not "useful"?:confused:
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  • hbloomers
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    I'd love to see the take people have on my degree. I'm well aware people consider music to be an artsy, easy degree.

    I don't think people take into account the analytical skills we develop, the critical thinking, the dedication playing a musical instrument to a very high standard requires. Yes, we may not solve complex differential equations, or be able to do open heart surgery, but (cheesy as it sounds!), our hard work in performance and composition gives results that touch the soul :D
    *insert witty comment here*
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