Civil Service Back Pay

wifeforlife

Am glad to see I'm not the only NIPSA hater in the civil service - I left over the 2006 paydeal. Nobody else can see what a mess they made, they actually suceeded in convincing staff to accept less!

I left NIPSA at the time of that paydeal, told them I'd give myself a payrise and stopped paying my subs to them!

Backpay, I'll gladly accept but am not counting on anything and don't see it materialising correctly anytime soon

purt

Trade Unions are hopeless.

Golden_Anemone

cathy2702 wrote: »

Am glad to see I'm not the only NIPSA hater in the civil service - I left over the 2006 paydeal. Nobody else can see what a mess they made, they actually suceeded in convincing staff to accept less!

I'm in the minority among my colleagues too Cathy but I'm very comfortable with my choice. At the time you left I wished I was still a member so I could leave! How twisted is that? :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Here's something very few NIPSA members will know. I was told by someone who's mate worked for Pay and Grading in Central Personnel Group that at the beginning of the 2005 pay negotiations NIPSA were offered 4.78% in total. They turned it down flat and asked for something crazy like 20% plus massive increases in Ts & Cs. CPG begged them to take the offer as all the signs were that Treasury would withdraw it if not accepted quickly. NIPSA dug its heels in and called its members out on strike for several days over a number of weeks and months but in the end Management imposed the final pay settlement which was nearer to 2%.

That year there was also a disgraceful campaign of propaganda whereby union officials were e-mailing all civil servants - in DSD anyway - asking for support for the strike. A few brave individuals replied to the officials telling them they disagreed with the action and the officials replied to them with vitriol and copied in the entire e-mail list to embarrass the people. Someone later apologised stating they should have used BCC instead of CC as if it would have been any less wrong to do it in secret.

That's the sort of class act people's union dues are paying for! :rolleyes:

culchied wrote: »

Trade Unions are hopeless.

But some are more hopeless than others. ^^

NAR

Golden_Anemone wrote: »

Here's something very few NIPSA members will know. I was told by someone who's mate worked for Pay and Grading in Central Personnel Group that at the beginning of the 2005 pay negotiations NIPSA were offered 4.78% in total. They turned it down flat and asked for something crazy like 20% plus massive increases in Ts & Cs. CPG begged them to take the offer as all the signs were that Treasury would withdraw it if not accepted quickly. NIPSA dug its heels in and called its members out on strike for several days over a number of weeks and months but in the end Management imposed the final pay settlement which was nearer to 2%.

I remember this well. In fact the Treasury official who placed this offer on the table did so without authority. But because it was offered NIPSA were told they had one day only to accept the offer or it would be withdrawn, which we know the numpties turned down. I remember that settlement so well as it cost me over £700pa.

gilerachick

I'm shocked to discover this. I was under the assumption that if you were in post in the NICS in the last 6 years, even if you were no longer working for them now, you would still be entitled to the backpay. Hardly seems fair.

Choco

I have gone to my MLA, others who are in same position as me may want to do something about it too! I got a rather nasty response from the "Union" which I have also passed on. NIPSA are not prepared to do anything for those of us who have left, transferred etc. Seems like we paid our Union fees for nothing! When I asked NIPSA where did all my union fees go for over 22 years needless to say I didn't get an answer!

Golden_Anemone

The union has abandoned you and those like you choco. The SSA staff who were compulsorily transferred to the Inland Revenue - now HMRC - must be seething that NIPSA have not insisted they are included.

thriftyminx13

This sounds awful, and please don't shout....but the whole issue of back pay maybe should never have raised its head... because the only people who benefit are those still in the service who's pay has probably gone up in the past 5 years anyway. Whereas the people like choco lose out etc or those who have transferred. Controversial maybe but true.

Indo77

I work in support within the FE education sector and find NIPSA a useless union who only cater for the few not the majority. Many of our staff are in skilled jobs (IT etc) and are on lower band grades than the academic staff when it's simply unjustified. Go to any of the Univerisities and this is not the case. NIPSA have never represented my interests.

dingdong1984

Feel sorry for all those affected but I'll gladly take my money if / when it appears!