sacked for gross misconduct need help!!!!!

briona

bigmacman wrote: »

when i do application forms in the jobs part should i even mention that job it was my 1st job should i say i was traveling or what.

pinkshoes wrote: »

I was initially going to suggest leaving the job off the CV, but if you've been there 6 years, there is NO WAY you can say you've been travelling for that long.

I agree with pinkshoes – there is NO WAY you can pretend you were travelling for that long. And what would you do if an interviewer asked you a bit about your travels, and worse still, had spent a lot of time in whichever country/countries you claimed to have been to? They'd soon realise you were lying, and would probably come to the conclusion that the time you couldn't account for had been spent in prison...

The most important thing on a CV/application form is what you have done most recently. Being sacked for gross misconduct puts you at an immediate disadvantage. In your shoes, I would probably look to go into some sort of training – play the old career change card. Perhaps enrol on a college course and spend a year or so studying and/or acquiring new skills? You could then use your tutors as referees.

woody01 wrote: »

Personally, i wouldn't employ someone who was caught stealing under ANY circumstances, even to do the most menial task.

Unfortunately, I agree. Yes, of course you should be given a second chance, but if I had to choose between two employees who were equally capable of doing the job but one had a criminal record and the other didn't, I would undoubtedly choose the one without. That's life I'm afraid.

Briona

bigmacman

yeah sounds fair enough just dig sum digging threw my certificates and found my warehousing apprenticeship i did and i finished that in 2007 so im thinking of doing another apprenticeship in different area as i need some income to pay bills etc.
thanks for the honest advice though

MrsTinks

I used to employ a lot of people in my team and sorry but I wouldn't hire anyone with a criminal record or who had been dimissed for gross misconduct either... Is your employer following up on criminal charges? Are they likely to? (How much did your thefts cost them?) The seriousness of the theft might slightly help you if it is minor - I have a feeling it's not as it was ongoing for 18 months...

Definitely don't leave it off the CV - being anything other than honest will more than likely do nothing more than cause you to be dismissed if or when a new employer finds out you have lied to them.

I'm a little concerned though from your replies etc that infact you're not particularly sorry - you're just sorry you were caught... If I have that wrong then I appologise, but if you're genuinely sorry you might want to work on putting that across better - especially for potential interviews/accompanying letters etc

dmg24

Could I suggest that you spend your time out of work looking at your literacy skills? The JCP should be able to arrange some support on this, and it will really improve your prospects of getting new employment.

bigmacman

could be a idea i just need some money to !!! in to pay bills at the moment as you dont get overally alot on jsa im back at jobcentre tuesday so i will enquire

briona

bigmacman wrote: »

yeah sounds fair enough just dig sum digging threw my certificates and found my warehousing apprenticeship i did and i finished that in 2007 so im thinking of doing another apprenticeship in different area as i need some income to pay bills etc.
thanks for the honest advice though

An apprenticeship sounds like a good idea. The link below gives you some brief information about eligibility for apprenticeships, what qualifications they lead to and how much money you will get, etc. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/EducationAndLearning/14To19/OptionsAt16/DG_4001327

Below is the link for the official apprenticeships website. Click the "Apprentices" button at the top of the page, and from there, using the menu on the left, you can find the answers to any questions you might have. And if you click the "Apprenticeships" button you can see what industries you can do an apprenticeship in. http://www.apprenticeships.org.uk/

Briona

bigmacman

thanks every1 for the comments there is sum people who wanna help instead of criticise without bein all negative and no positives. im going to ask at the jobcentre tuesday see what they say and what my options are at the moment thanks again for the coments
bigmac

briona

dmg24 wrote: »

Could I suggest that you spend your time out of work looking at your literacy skills? The JCP should be able to arrange some support on this, and it will really improve your prospects of getting new employment.

Further to dmg's post, it's worth noting that numeracy and literacy courses tend to be free. If you click on the following link, you will find more information as well as a number to call for a chat with an advisor. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/EducationAndLearning/AdultLearning/ImprovingYourSkills/DG_10037437

bigmacman

MrsTine wrote: »

I used to employ a lot of people in my team and sorry but I wouldn't hire anyone with a criminal record or who had been dimissed for gross misconduct either... Is your employer following up on criminal charges? Are they likely to? (How much did your thefts cost them?) The seriousness of the theft might slightly help you if it is minor - I have a feeling it's not as it was ongoing for 18 months...

Definitely don't leave it off the CV - being anything other than honest will more than likely do nothing more than cause you to be dismissed if or when a new employer finds out you have lied to them.

I'm a little concerned though from your replies etc that infact you're not particularly sorry - you're just sorry you were caught... If I have that wrong then I appologise, but if you're genuinely sorry you might want to work on putting that across better - especially for potential interviews/accompanying letters etc

i have apologised to the company itself and i know what i did wrong why i did it is no excuse yeah ive had my problems hence why i did what i did and yes it being followed up by the police it was my 1st and last offence its not like me to do somthing so stupid like that.
im just lookin to put myself on the write track and learn from my mistakes

bigmacman

briona wrote: »

Further to dmg's post, it's worth noting that numeracy and literacy courses tend to be free. If you click on the following link, you will find more information as well as a number to call for a chat with an advisor. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/EducationAndLearning/AdultLearning/ImprovingYourSkills/DG_10037437

going to ask about this tuesday as im interested in doing this ive got a certificate in
key skills level 1application of number
key skills level 1 in communication