Sainsbury's checking IDs

rainbow_carnage

Volvic wrote: »

For God's sake...it's their JOB. Wouldn't you feel awful if a manager was standing by and that girl did not ID you and then she got pulled to one side and got a scolding from her manager because her manager thought you LOOKED 24? I'm sure I would! Regardless of being 29 or 22 or 15, it's their judgement, just respect that and carry an ID with you in future.
:rolleyes:

It's their job to require ID from people who are clearly old enough to drink? That's absurd.

If I were the manager, I'd scold her for blindly misapplying the policy and ignoring common sense. What good is using your judgment if it's so bad that you're off by more than a decade? Would you feel differently if I said I was 39? At which point does it become stupid to ask for ID? Or do you think that everyone should have to carry proof of age at all times in the event that they want to buy a pint or a packet of cigs?

DCFC79

rainbow_carnage wrote: »

Not to be pedantic, but I'm pretty sure the signs don't say, "Do you look like you might possibly be under the age of 25?". They say, "Under 25? Don't be surprised..." or something similar.

Under 25? No, I'm not, thanks. The sign doesn't apply to me.

The whole point of the policy is for staff to check customers who look borderline. If a staff member isn't sure whether the person is over 18, they should ask for ID. The sign tells customers under the age of 25 not to be offended as they fall into that borderline age bracket.

The policy isn't intended for staff who aren't sure if the person is 24 or 25. Mindlessly checking everyone, regardless of whether they look potentially underage, is wrong.

As sarahg1969 said, there's a world of difference between looking young enough to pass for 25 and old enough to pass for 25. I work with teenagers. It's often hard tell if someone is 16 or 18. But it's very easy to tell the difference between a 17-year-old and a 29-year-old. No one ever mistakes me for one of the students.

and theres also people who look older for they're age and vice versa

Volvic

It's their job to act with vigilance and to trust their instinct. If you had carried ID, I'm sure the girl would have apologised and explained that she had to ask because she felt you may be UNDER 25, not 18. The age bracket was extended to 21 to 15 because the government felt that it was difficult to judge the age of strangers, which is often the case. Just put it down to experience and accept that not everyone has the same opinion as you about how old you look.

snapping_crocodile

rainbow_carnage wrote: »

The drinking age is 18, not 25. They aren't checking to see if you're over 25 but over 18. It's painfully obviously to anyone who isn't blind that I'm over 18.

As people have said age is subjective. She was doing her job!! And in fact they are checking to see that anyone who looks under 25, is actually aged over 18. I didn't think i looked 16 when I was ID'd in asda but the checkout women obviously thought i was!! ID out....no issues. The checkout operator clearly thought you could have been under 25 (only 4 years difference??!!) so asked for ID, why is it such a problem?!

spike7451

Storck wrote: »

rainbow-carnage, how are they meant to know if you are under 25 without asking you for ID? Surely the whole point is to check ID and that is what the person did.

Spike7451, surely most people will know what a passport looks like and then two pictures, one of a PASS hologram and one of a driving license. Job done. If they were to take loads of employer IDs then you would need a book of all the different types. Apart from that it is what is laid down in law now so it isn't even a decision each store can take.

Passport excluded...My point being a Military ID card is issued by H M Government & is an 'Official Document' (as written on the back of mine) issued by the MoD. It is not an employer ID inasmuch as every serving regular,reserve,ta & cadet instructor has one,even dependant's have a variation.
Besides,how many companies have staff in excess of 174,000?

Volvic

I remember one of the checkout runners telling me in passing conversation about her daughter who has just turned 30 who still carries ID because on occasion she gets asked. Passing comment, no big fuss kicked up. No "it's ridiculous" about it.

jamespir

i cant see why youre getting upset for if your id alot take your passport with you its not hard


also i just laugh it off

duchy

ses6jwg wrote: »

If you do not like the attitude in Sainsburys you're only option is to either take your business elsewhere or to buy a provisional drivers license and never have to be put in that situation again.

Simple then -pay out £50 (the cost of a provisional licence) to shop at Sainburys or do the sensible thing and vote with your feet and go to a retailer who trains their staff properly.

Pretty easy decision on a money saving website I think

Volvic

duchy wrote: »

Simple then -pay out £50 (the cost of a provisional licence) to shop at Sainburys or do the sensible thing and vote with your feet and go to a retailer who trains their staff properly.

Pretty easy decision on a money saving website I think

Seems to me that the staff are trained just fine, as said many times in this thread, age is subjective. It's hard to tell. There's really not a huge difference between 29 and 25.

nsimpson123

The Think 25 policy is in place because judging customers age is sometimes very difficult and also to 'protect' our young people,not only with alcohol but also with knives, fireworks, dvd etc, it is every cashiers job to ask if they are unsure wether someone may be under 25