Sainsbury's checking IDs

jamespir

im 28 and i seem to get id lots at tesco my gf looks younger than 28 and shes never been id'd

spike7451

Storck wrote: »

But how many people know what they look like. It could be anything that someone has produced on their computer. That is why they have a short list of things, passport, driving license or card with PASS hologram on. That way people only have to know three things. If you accepted Army cards what about other employer cards, eg Inland revenue, tax office etc or maybe Littlewoods?

But then how many people know what the one's on the list look like? I dont apart from looking on the poster.

rainbow_carnage

Not to be pedantic, but I'm pretty sure the signs don't say, "Do you look like you might possibly be under the age of 25?". They say, "Under 25? Don't be surprised..." or something similar.

Under 25? No, I'm not, thanks. The sign doesn't apply to me.

The whole point of the policy is for staff to check customers who look borderline. If a staff member isn't sure whether the person is over 18, they should ask for ID. The sign tells customers under the age of 25 not to be offended as they fall into that borderline age bracket.

The policy isn't intended for staff who aren't sure if the person is 24 or 25. Mindlessly checking everyone, regardless of whether they look potentially underage, is wrong.

As sarahg1969 said, there's a world of difference between looking young enough to pass for 25 and old enough to pass for 25. I work with teenagers. It's often hard tell if someone is 16 or 18. But it's very easy to tell the difference between a 17-year-old and a 29-year-old. No one ever mistakes me for one of the students.

Storck

rainbow-carnage, how are they meant to know if you are under 25 without asking you for ID? Surely the whole point is to check ID and that is what the person did.

Spike7451, surely most people will know what a passport looks like and then two pictures, one of a PASS hologram and one of a driving license. Job done. If they were to take loads of employer IDs then you would need a book of all the different types. Apart from that it is what is laid down in law now so it isn't even a decision each store can take.

raebhoop

Wear a burkha...guarantee no problem.

Volvic

For God's sake...it's their JOB. Wouldn't you feel awful if a manager was standing by and that girl did not ID you and then she got pulled to one side and got a scolding from her manager because her manager thought you LOOKED 24? I'm sure I would! Regardless of being 29 or 22 or 15, it's their judgement, just respect that and carry an ID with you in future.
:rolleyes:

rainbow_carnage

Storck wrote: »

rainbow-carnage, how are they meant to know if you are under 25 without asking you for ID? Surely the whole point is to check ID and that is what the person did.

The drinking age is 18, not 25. They aren't checking to see if you're over 25 but over 18. It's painfully obviously to anyone who isn't blind that I'm over 18.

Volvic

heatheryone wrote: »

Surely not? It's not illegal to sell alcohol to a 24-year-old! Think 25 is there to ensure staff ID anyone who might conceivably be underage, not because it's illegal to sell alcohol to anyone under 25.

I'm a department manager in Asda, believe me it can happen. I have seen a 19-year old girl taken by the arm from her checkout mid-shift because she didn't ID a 24-year-old gent sent in as a test by Police sitting in the foyer. Most Asda stores are tested twice a month along with tests on que length, happy to help, clean as you go. They're not management enforcements, they're government enforcements.

Volvic

rainbow_carnage wrote: »

The drinking age is 18, not 25. They aren't checking to see if you're over 25 but over 18. It's painfully obviously to anyone who isn't blind that I'm over 18.

In your opinion.

I would say it's painfully obvious to tell I'm also over 18, however someone else might disagree and that's fair enough.

Volvic

We also once had one of the security lads test several operators to see how much they paid attention. He tested wearing his security uniform. The lad was 22. Many of the operators did not ask him for ID purely because he worked in the store as part of the security team for which you need to be over 18 to be a part of. The operators got a scolding and were told they had failed the test because the lad was under 25. It all seems a little daft, but it goes to show how vigilant we need to be.