Sainsbury's checking IDs

CWCDiver

voiceofreason wrote: »

If you answer the door with kids, or - won't anyone think of the children! - say your thirteen-year-old initially answers the door to the driver, does the driver refuse to drop the beer off with you?

Or is that just as f-ing stupid?

It's probably not outside the relms of possibility, I seem to recall someone posting something along those lines on here before, but I don't recall if it was Sainsbury or not.

fluffnutter

voiceofreason wrote: »

If you answer the door with kids, or - won't anyone think of the children! - say your thirteen-year-old initially answers the door to the driver, does the driver refuse to drop the beer off with you?

Or is that just as f-ing stupid?

I know! It's madness, isn't it? Alcohol doesn't have to be consumed the minute it's bought by the person who bought it. Most of the time, when bought from a supermarket or off-licence, it's going to be taken home. Therefore, it stands to reason that, at any point in the future, the person buying it could be 'accompanied' by someone underage. That's always true for every single person who has or looks after children under 18. If the supermarkets' policy is taken to its ultimate logical conclusion then they shouldn't be selling to anyone who could potentially come into contact with a child - i.e. the entire population. It's nuances of interpretation that make wholesale policies like these unworkable - and probably why individuals at the checkout are so unconfident about making their own judgements.

Vote with your feet: I've never had problems in Waitrose!

heatheryone_2

New example of awe-inspiring ID-related stupidity: I was buying a bottle of wine with my food shopping last week. The cashier scanned the wine then said, "May I ask your age?" I assumed she was asking to see my ID, so passed her my driving licence, which shows I was born in January 1987. She squinted at it for a while, then said, "What? You're 87?" And she wasn't joking. I had to explain the licence showed my date of birth, and that you don't magically get sent a new licence every year with your age on it...

waterwatcher

I visited sainsbury's yesterday. I'm aged 31, I look 31 as verified by a police officer and other customers I spoke with afterwards. They refused to sell me a bottle of ALCOHOL FREE wine as I didn't have any ID with me!

I think I might emigrate!

Djonma

Sorry, but I totally disagree.

The checks on this are SO strict.
If that person sells you alcohol, it doesn't matter what age youare, they can lose their job.
Not only that, but their supervisor can lose their job for that cashier selling you alcohol on their 'watch'.
The supermarket can LOSE their licence to sell alcohol.
Have you got any idea how much money a supermarket makes on alcohol in a single week?

They're trained to do it that way because the consequences are SO damning, that it is just not worth it to not refuse you.
Trading Standards are extremely strict on this, and bring the harshest punishments down.

It's much safer to get ID and carry it with you. A credit card proves you're over 18, by the way, I think that's acceptable in supermarkets, not entirely sure.

For a bottle of wine, you think it's more worth you having that, than that cashier having a job?

Nicola

Darksun

Djonma wrote: »

If that person sells you alcohol, it doesn't matter what age youare, they can lose their job.

Not just that, but they can personally face criminal charges.

UK2010

Storck wrote: »

And if everytime people did that the member of staff said ok, good bye and removed your shopping you might start taking ID in with you. It is no skin of their nose if you leave your shopping, even worse for you if you use your own bags as you would have to stand there and unpack everything.

Exactly. People think that if they do that it's like the end of the world for the staff. They won't give a toss, they've seen it all anyway. Might even be glad of something to do if it's quiet!

DCFC79

sarahg1969 wrote: »

When I was in Sainsburys a few months back, a checkout lady was serving one of her colleagues, and said to her that she knew she was 20, but she had to ask for her ID. What rot.

they have to even if the person on the till knows of her colleagues age, the person serving could have been randoml checked she was doing the scan and pack, saying hello to the customers etc or tehy could be watched on the cctv system and if she didnt ask for id tehn she would called to the office(trust me i got caught by the **** of a store manager just because i didnt say hello to a customer when im sure i did but i didnt want to argue with him)

DCFC79

Djonma wrote: »

Sorry, but I totally disagree.

The checks on this are SO strict.
If that person sells you alcohol, it doesn't matter what age youare, they can lose their job.

The point of it all is to ask for ID to prevent alcohol being sold to people who shouldn't have it/getting into the wrong hands

Not only that, but their supervisor can lose their job for that cashier selling you alcohol on their 'watch'.

the supervisor wouldnt lose her job(depends on the supermarket but i know sainsburys wouldn't sack the supervisor) if alcohol was sold to an under age person on they're watch, the serving cashier would lose they're job and the store manager would possibly get a strike if it was the first offence and/or they could prove the cashier was trained in the correct procedure when asking for ID via the training records

The supermarket can LOSE their licence to sell alcohol.

yes this is correct to a certain extent but it depends how many strikes the store has had

Have you got any idea how much money a supermarket makes on alcohol in a single week?

They're trained to do it that way because the consequences are SO damning, that it is just not worth it to not refuse you.
Trading Standards are extremely strict on this, and bring the harshest punishments down.

They are strict for a reason, would you rather see drunken youths geting drunk on cider or wine hurling abuse at people or causing damage to other peoples property

It's much safer to get ID and carry it with you. A credit card proves you're over 18, by the way, I think that's acceptable in supermarkets, not entirely sure.

Well a credit card isnt a proof of age though is it, a girl who is 17 but looks say 18/19 could buy a bottle of wine on her mums credit card and not get asked for age

just a few points

waterwatcher

The point that gets lost is it is illegal to sell alcohol to under 18's I am 31 and was trying to buy ALCOHOL FREE wine. A certain level of common sense should be applied. No court in the land would convict someone for that.