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Sainsbury's checking IDs
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If you are obviously over 18 and look it, and are fed up with being asked for ID, then next time you do a big shop, put the wine on the conveyor after everything else. When they come to scan the wine, if they refuse to serve you without ID, tell them you are not taking any of the shopping unless they sell you the wine.
If enough people did this, they might get the message.
Its obviously important that if someone looks as if they might be underage, they should be checked, but the shops need to use common sense.0 -
Perhaps you could explain why you think it is acceptable to ask a 30 year old for i.d when they want to purchase alcohol.
I can think of no rational or logical explanation for it. It is certainly not to prevent the sale to an underage drinker
My own view is that alcohol should only be sold in off-licences or pubs, where entering these premises is for one purpose only.
It will never happen of course, since the supermarket profit margin on alcohol is large; hence their fear of losing their licence, and putting the onus on poorly paid staff who are encouraged to not show any discretion or common sense. And there are some staff who do use common sense, ive worked with them so i know.
The supermarkets over reaction is similar to garages suddenly asking for I.D. to prove you are old enough to drive, and hence purchase a car - done in the interests of preventing underage drivers. How does the garage know you have bought said car, you could be 17 and driving your mums car
It is all pure nonsense.
the checkout operator doesnt know you are 30 years old, yes you could say your 30 but how do they know that. Judging peoples ages is hard to do, you cant spend 5 minute decidign whether someone is of the right age as queues would form and even worse if you had a member of management randomly checking your quality of work on the checkouts eg did you make eye contact with the customer etc. ID is asked for to prevent a sale to an underage customer and thats it.itselliebell wrote: »why wouldn't it be? it is not like when they ask you for id you legally have to produce id to be served alcohol. if a checkout operator / manager can verify my age because they personally know me i don't see that there should be a problem.
well i was going on the basis that if a new operator was on the checkout then he would ask you for id if he thought you looked under 25.0 -
If you are obviously over 18 and look it, and are fed up with being asked for ID, then next time you do a big shop, put the wine on the conveyor after everything else. When they come to scan the wine, if they refuse to serve you without ID, tell them you are not taking any of the shopping unless they sell you the wine.
If enough people did this, they might get the message.
Its obviously important that if someone looks as if they might be underage, they should be checked, but the shops need to use common sense.
And if everytime people did that the member of staff said ok, good bye and removed your shopping you might start taking ID in with you. It is no skin of their nose if you leave your shopping, even worse for you if you use your own bags as you would have to stand there and unpack everything.
If you find you are drinking too much give this number a call. 0845 769 75550 -
If you are obviously over 18 and look it, and are fed up with being asked for ID, then next time you do a big shop, put the wine on the conveyor after everything else. When they come to scan the wine, if they refuse to serve you without ID, tell them you are not taking any of the shopping unless they sell you the wine.
If enough people did this, they might get the message.
Its obviously important that if someone looks as if they might be underage, they should be checked, but the shops need to use common sense.
No, no. Put it on first. Then you can leave the rest of the shopping on the conveyor, and you don't have to go to the bother of bagging it first.0 -
sarahg1969 wrote: »No, no. Put it on first. Then you can leave the rest of the shopping on the conveyor, and you don't have to go to the bother of bagging it first.
You will have still wasted your time walking round the store and getting all your shopping plus you will have to drive somewhere else to do your shopping.If you find you are drinking too much give this number a call. 0845 769 75550 -
I recently read a story in my local newspaper about a woman being refused alcohol because she was accompanied by people underage. Makes perfect sense; supermarkets need to be on the lookout for the one 18 year old in a group buying drink for everyone. In this case though the woman was a mother in her late thirties and the underage people were her two month old twins.
Do they honestly think that they're tackling underage drinking by refusing to sell to a mother with her babies? Perhaps they're concerned that she's going to tank up the twins on the way home by spiking their bottles with a couple of slugs of sauvignon blanc, in which case they no doubt believe they're performing a valuable service. I doubt it though - if this were genuinely the case then we're talking about more far-reaching problems in society than can be solved by supermarket sales policy.
What seems most ridiculous about this is the implicit suggestion as an alternative: if the woman is to be successful in buying the alcohol then perhaps she needs to leave her babies in the car or at home - alone.
Something else that has occurred to me - what checks are done if you're doing your weekly shop on-line and want to include alcohol?"Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.0 -
fluffnutter - if you shop on line then the actual transaction happens when the goods are delivered not when you order, that is why someone over 18, with ID if required, needs to be there on delivery. If not then no alcohol.If you find you are drinking too much give this number a call. 0845 769 75550
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well i was going on the basis that if a new operator was on the checkout then he would ask you for id if he thought you looked under 25.
yeah, i do get asked for id by the operators who don't know me, but there is always someone who does know me working close by to verify my age for me.
i never get asked for id at off licences or going into bars, i think people working in off sales / bars are much better at guaging ages.0 -
Ha a local shop prevented me "buying booze for people underage" (or so they claim) a few months ago. I am sure there is a deluge of youths hanging round on street corners quaffing £120 bottles of champagne... :rolleyes:It must be accepted as a principle that the rifle cannot replace the speed of the horse, the magnetism of the charge and the terror of cold steel.
The British Cavalry Manual 1907.0 -
fluffnutter - if you shop on line then the actual transaction happens when the goods are delivered not when you order, that is why someone over 18, with ID if required, needs to be there on delivery. If not then no alcohol.
If you answer the door with kids, or - won't anyone think of the children! - say your thirteen-year-old initially answers the door to the driver, does the driver refuse to drop the beer off with you?
Or is that just as f-ing stupid?0
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