Cash from Baking??

owlet

esmer wrote: »

Made these for my friends birthday.

Awww they are so pretty. I wish I had taken photos of all the cakes I've made over the years. Oh well, I'll start now

karenccs67

esmer wrote: »

Made these for my friends birthday.

these look so tasty. x

ladypike

poz31 wrote: »

Hi,

Can anyone help me please? I have been asked if i would like to sell my home made cakes (would be cupcakes, flapjacks, fruitcake and banana cake if i do) at a craft sale. I have only ever made them for friends and family before. It will be a one off event, do i need to get my food hygiene certificate? Is there anything else i need? I've read various things on the internet so i'm confused. I can seei have to register with EH and have my certificate if i start a business, but there's different conflicting information about one off/occasional sales. Can anyone advise me? I dont want to get in trouble.

Thanks

Hi
You would need your food hygeine cert, register with your local council and they may come and inspect your kitchen + public liability insurance, hope this helps
p.s if you need any names for business insurance or food hygeine cert college, just pm me and I will let you know who I got mine through xx

cheekychipmunk

poz31 wrote: »

Hi,

Can anyone help me please? I have been asked if i would like to sell my home made cakes (would be cupcakes, flapjacks, fruitcake and banana cake if i do) at a craft sale. I have only ever made them for friends and family before. It will be a one off event, do i need to get my food hygiene certificate? Is there anything else i need? I've read various things on the internet so i'm confused. I can seei have to register with EH and have my certificate if i start a business, but there's different conflicting information about one off/occasional sales. Can anyone advise me? I dont want to get in trouble.

Thanks

Hi. I contacted my local EH department about this and they said I didn't need to register for a one-off event. You should check with your local council though to make sure.

I ended up doing the certificate anyway, had my kitchen checked over and got public liability insurance. If you think you may do this more than once, then it's worthwhile doing it properly. My local EH inspector was very, very helpful.

hth

babyrut

Hi all,
Been reading some of the posts on here and would like to start up my own business selling cupcakes to start with and then maybe doing celebration cakes at a later stage. I have iced a few celebration cakes and looking at starting maybe a course in September part time to do with sugar craft. I was thinking of starting by making a few cakes and taking pics and building a portfolio. Also maybe going to the local country market with some and starting small there. Can anyone give me some ideas to start? What is the best thing to do and what are the essentials I need regarding training and business management? What has worked for you? Thanks
Ruth

dellaclearing

babyrut wrote: »

Hi all,
Been reading some of the posts on here and would like to start up my own business selling cupcakes to start with and then maybe doing celebration cakes at a later stage. I have iced a few celebration cakes and looking at starting maybe a course in September part time to do with sugar craft. I was thinking of starting by making a few cakes and taking pics and building a portfolio. Also maybe going to the local country market with some and starting small there. Can anyone give me some ideas to start? What is the best thing to do and what are the essentials I need regarding training and business management? What has worked for you? Thanks
Ruth

Hi Babyrut

The first thing to check is your mortgage or tenancy agreement. There may be a clause in there prohibiting a business being run from the property, although some people here have found ways around it.

You'll need a food and safety certificate which you can get from your local council for about £50 ish or cheaper if you look online but others would probably be able to best advise you about that.

Then you'll need to contact your local council's Environmental Health department to arrange an inspection of your kitchen and property. If they give you the green light to proceed you'd want got get yourself public liability insurance to cover yourself In the event that someone gets sick or reports you for any reason!

Then you're good to go! You'll need to register as self employed with HMRC within 28 days of trading or they'll fine you. It would be worthwhile building yourself a website or maybe having business cards you can pass out to people at the markets.

dellaclearing

Hello Hayley, I still have a few questions about your post I was hoping you could help with please!

hayley11 wrote: »

You can run this business from a home, i'm certain all the people on this thread are doing exactly that.

We live in a rented flat, our LL is a solicitor and he said it was absolutely fine. It's not a commercial property, it's a residential property.

Can you please share with us how your landlord was able to class yours as a residential, not a commercial property? I've spoken to 2 online solicitors who have told me that if a landlord agrees to business use, the tenancy will change and they'll have restricted rights to recover possession which will obviously put any landlord off. Another lawyer said that the prohibition of business use in the tenancy agreement would apply to all businesses, no matter how big or small. Is he right or are there exceptions?

hayley11 wrote: »

My advice would be to ring the environmental health for the area you are planning on moving (or even just looking) get an idea of how flexible they are, like Esmer said, some are really horrid and won't let you whereas some are great and will let you no questions asked.

Fired off a load of Emails to different parts of the council, some linked us back to the original VOA document, some sent us documents about food safety and gave us phone numbers to arrange EH inspections so it seems as though they aren't going to cause too much trouble for us.

hayley11 wrote: »

Then I would speak to the LL of the property you are looking at them, explain that you OH is wanting to make a few cakes in her spare time to sell, I can't imagine why a LL would have a problem with this but i'm sure some will.

We've written to agencies explaining our situation, we don't want to waste time looking at flats only to find out later that the landlord will say no.
So far only one agency wrote back, saying they couldn't see a problem with it so long as the flat was looked after and the rent was paid, but I doubt they're fully aware of the legal factors involved.

What risks do we run by not telling them at all? It's unlikely they would ever actually discover my GF was baking to sell?

hayley11 wrote: »

I think some of the information you've been given has led you to believe it's quite complicated running a bakery business from home and it isn't.

Good luck

I wish I could agree that it wasn't complicated, I feel pretty lost trying to navigate my way through the legal minefield!

This is a link to the Q&A page of the landlord law blog where the lawyer answered my question.
http://www.landlordlaw.co.uk/qanda/running-baking-business-rented-property

hayley11

Dellaclearing - he said because it's on such a small scale, it's just home baking and selling it on, there is no industrial equipement, the house is still for the most part a home, and the kitchen is still mainly used for our cooking not business baking.

Maybe you should post on the House Buying and Renting board about this, there are lots of LL's over there and they might be able to give you more advice.

karenccs67

Can I ask for your advice please?

Ive been asked if I would host a cupcake decorating hen party, not sure of numbers yet but to charge per head, I need to provide everything and go to the brides home for 2hrs or so on a Saturday afternoon. I was thinking 6 or 12 cakes each. how much per head would you charge for this?

thank you

Karen x

Tiggger

Karen,

Would it not be easier to work out a "whole party" cost plus a per head cost for the cakes used? So you could cost your time, materials, travel etc and then add on a cost per head to decorate 6 cakes each or 12 cakes each. Colleges pay around £22 per hour to tutors so if you based you charges on this, what sort of figures would that give you?

Also have you googled cupcake decorating courses? They might give a starting point for charging if you can find a short, half day course to compare yourself with!

I hope that this helps,

Good luck!

Tiggger