Overtaking

amcluesent

Sounds like the Volvo driver had a problem with a lady driver zooming past in a flash motor...;)

I recall years ago, when by usually mild-mannered father was at the wheel, an idiot driver accelerated on every straight section of the road going down the Argyle coast, preventing us overtaking.

For his troubles, he ended up having our Land Rover mere cm from his back bumper around the very twisty bits, obliging him to to go faster and faster...bit like the film 'Duel'.

gaz_jones

DKLS wrote: »

Nice, am seriously considering an oil burner for early next year, I have always hated them until, my mate let me have a go in his new Alpina D3 Most un-diesel like performance

Can't go wrong with an Alpina to be honest. I have driven an E46 Alpina and it was like shit off a stick! If insurance would allow that would definitely be my next car.

Apples2

There could be two sides to this story.

I've been driving on a NS road with nothing more than a safe distance between me and the car in front. If that means we are tootling along at 40mph, so be it. If there is no free road in front, then keep a safe distance and match the speed of the car in front.

There is no point overtaking if there is nowhere to go.

I find it amazing how many people see the safe distance in front of me as their space. If you allow them to overtake, then I have to slow down to regain a safe distance, only for the next car to want to get in it and so on and so on.

Maybe we should all drive bumper to bumper at any speed.

hothothot_3

Apples2 wrote: »

There could be two sides to this story.

I've been driving on a NS road with nothing more than a safe distance between me and the car in front. If that means we are tootling along at 40mph, so be it. If there is no free road in front, then keep a safe distance and match the speed of the car in front.

There is no point overtaking if there is nowhere to go.

I find it amazing how many people see the safe distance in front of me as their space. If you allow them to overtake, then I have to slow down to regain a safe distance, only for the next car to want to get in it and so on and so on.

Maybe we should all drive bumper to bumper at any speed.

totally agree, so much for "only a fool breaks the two second rule (4second in bad conditions)"

but overtaking is a valid manouvere, and I dont see why a 1.1 micra with no torque should stop me making progress - they are the same people who stand in doorways and want to be asked if they could please move out the way.

Idiophreak

Apples2 wrote: »

There could be two sides to this story.

I've been driving on a NS road with nothing more than a safe distance between me and the car in front. If that means we are tootling along at 40mph, so be it. If there is no free road in front, then keep a safe distance and match the speed of the car in front.

There is no point overtaking if there is nowhere to go.

I find it amazing how many people see the safe distance in front of me as their space. If you allow them to overtake, then I have to slow down to regain a safe distance, only for the next car to want to get in it and so on and so on.

Maybe we should all drive bumper to bumper at any speed.

Oh my God, are you winding us up?

If there's space to overtake, why aren't you doing it?

If you aren't why do you have a problem with anybody else that want to?

Odds on, if you're not going to be bothered to overtake here, you're not going to be bothered to overtake next time either, or the time after that. If the car behind you overtakes 3 cars in that time, he's 3 cars further forward at the next set of lights, the next T junction, whatever. Now, you may not feel that's worth him overtaking you, but he might - and guess what, it's not for you to decide how anyone else should drive.

ETA: Think you did your (wise) edit before my quote

lisyloo

If you aren't why do you have a problem with anybody else that want to?

I don't have a problem with people overtaking.
However there is a point where I agree with Apples.
If the space available is you contingency/braking distance, then someone else should not jeopardise that.
I'm not saying we all "own" the bit of road in fron of us. Of course we don't.
But we need to be conscious of the fact that the area in fron is someone else's braking distance if it's required.

Apples2

Idiophreak wrote: »

If there's space to overtake, why aren't you doing it?

Because there isn't space to overtake, that was my point, I don't think you understood.

If there is a queue of traffic on a busy road, please explain why I shouldn't leave a safe distance between my car and the car in front??

You are suggesting if there is a safe distance in front of me, then you should be able to overtake me and put your car in the gap. This enforces me to slow down to re-create my safe distance.

If there is a clear road in front of me, then by all means conduct your overtake and get on your way, but to overtake me then sit on my front bumper because there is nowhere for you to go is reckless.

You are in good company though, there are many who drive like you


EDIT: My edit above was to suggest that if some Idio (see what I did there??) tried an overtake as I have described above, then I too would speed up to keep you there. It's a fair chance that if the road was open I would be off in the distance anyway.

stugib

Idiophreak wrote: »

If the car behind you overtakes 3 cars in that time, he's 3 cars further forward at the next set of lights, the next T junction, whatever. Now, you may not feel that's worth him overtaking you, but he might - and guess what, it's not for you to decide how anyone else should drive.

Fine if you're overtaking a whole queue. It's the t0ssers who start overtaking a stream of 7-8 vehicles without knowing they can pass the whole queue then brake and force their way in after the 3rd or 4th vehicle when they realise they're about to have a head on crash.

That said, the number of people who won't/can't overtake and form the queues behind a slow driver in the first place are infuriating.

janninew

Apples2 wrote: »

There could be two sides to this story.

I've been driving on a NS road with nothing more than a safe distance between me and the car in front. If that means we are tootling along at 40mph, so be it. If there is no free road in front, then keep a safe distance and match the speed of the car in front.

There is no point overtaking if there is nowhere to go.

I find it amazing how many people see the safe distance in front of me as their space. If you allow them to overtake, then I have to slow down to regain a safe distance, only for the next car to want to get in it and so on and so on.

Maybe we should all drive bumper to bumper at any speed.

The Volvo in front of me was the only other car on the road, (it was 5.30am - I was off to do my Xmas shop!) It would have taken me nearly twice as long to get to my destination if I would have happily sat behind him as he tootled along at 40mph on a 60mph road. I am not a dangerous driver, there was absolutely nothing dangerous or reckless in what I did, overtaking is allowed!!

motorguy

DKLS wrote: »

Nice, am seriously considering an oil burner for early next year, I have always hated them until, my mate let me have a go in his new Alpina D3 Most un-diesel like performance

335d / 535d.... Think of the way a D3 drives (with its twin turbos) then multiply the engine size by 50% = :beer:

Be aware that due to the rarity of the D3, you could probably pick up a 335d for similar money.