MSE Parents Club Part 9

got-it-spend-it

My concerns centre around this (taken from Wikipedia)


Ethical concerns

Vegans and some other vegetarians do not consume milk for a variety of reasons. They may object to features of dairy farming including the necessity of killing almost all the male offspring of dairy cows (either by disposal soon after birth, for veal production, or for beef), the routine separation of mother and calf soon after birth, other perceived inhumane treatment of dairy cattle, and culling of cows after their productive lives.[66]



And also the levels of anti-biotics and growth hormones in non-organic milk.

My_Fathers_Daughter

Glamazon wrote: »

Yeah it does go brown quite quickly but it's still red and dated tomorrow - still not started cooking yet I have 3 x 1kg packs so better get a wriggly on. I do still cook it when it's gone a little brown but not too brown!

Damn phone kept ringing so I've unplugged it

I think like Elle said it's the listeria in the machine - can't guarantee it has been cleaned properly. Know they don't advise it in pregnancy but not sure about for LO's.

I cook when a bit brown too...but it always annoys me that they put a date on and half of the time if you leave it to that date it is beyond anything but the bin. One day I WILL take it back to them!!

Sami_Bee wrote: »

as long as its pasturised it's fine AFAIK though I'm not fussy on pasturisedness past 1yr or when pg

I did say something about it not being pasturised last night so I wasn't far out!

It is funny - I get :eek: for giving him a whole pear or letting him hold a banana but then :rolleyes: because I won't let him have quavers or whippy ice-cream!!


LOL - tonight Benjamin had sausage! I thought that was 'bad' but he loved it!! I did him his own personal toad in the hole and he wolfed it down!

3onitsway

SeptemberBaby wrote: »

I don't think I have ever been to a Chinese buffet place before but I have been here at Liverpool ONE!

Yum-diddly-yum!

xx

It comes recomended then?

OH & I are supposed to be going for our 'going out' anniversary in a couple of weeks. Little Sis has been, and a few from work and all have said good things.

I was dubious because of the range of cuisine. I thought that you can't be good at cooking everything iykwim?

Millie's_Mum

Hi all, have skimmed yesterday and today, so not really keeping up but

DKAM so sorry to hear but at least you now know that moving away is the right thing to do.

Juicegate, Ello gets whatever is in the fridge watered down a lot but none goes in, she much prefers a cup of tea.

Cowgate, I agree the accepted method of milk production is cruel, but I cannot see an easy way round it, is there one?

IRL went to Christening today, had fabby time, Ello ate chili and rice and smiled at everyone but cried when they tried to have a cuddle with her. Millie is better, it seems to have been one of those 24hr things.

Sami_Bee

Also Aless have you heard of robo dairies? they seem fab to me, not sure how easy it would be to get milk from one particular dairy (and it be pasturised) though

Sami_Bee

got-it-spend-it wrote: »

My concerns centre around this (taken from Wikipedia)


Ethical concerns

Vegans and some other vegetarians do not consume milk for a variety of reasons. They may object to features of dairy farming including the necessity of killing almost all the male offspring of dairy cows (either by disposal soon after birth, for veal production, or for beef), the routine separation of mother and calf soon after birth, other perceived inhumane treatment of dairy cattle, and culling of cows after their productive lives.[66]



And also the levels of anti-biotics and growth hormones in non-organic milk.

:doh: I forgot about the boy cows
FYI growth hormone is banned in the UK it 'may' be in products made in the USA but acording to the mark dolan doc I saw on bbc3 late last year there's almost non of it in uk products
I don't know about anti-biotics though.

also :eek::mad: at sugar's story!!

got-it-spend-it

Sami_Bee wrote: »

Also Aless have you heard of robo dairies? they seem fab to me, not sure how easy it would be to get milk from one particular dairy (and it be pasturised) though

To be honest I think that is probably a result of big supermarkets driving down the price of dairy, and dairy farmers needing to become more efficient.

I'm so glad I'm not a cow- producing enough milk for one little tyke is enough for me!

SeptemberBaby_2

My_Fathers_Daughter wrote: »

As a rule, I don't rate Chinese Buffets at all, and certainly not somewhere to go as a couple!!! But as a large family meal it is great and the kids love it.

The one we are going to on Thurs has a big, no, massive chocolate fountain which is why DSS wants to go!!

Personally, I would NEVER eat anything from a chocolate fountain, horrible, unhygeinic, dirty things _pale_ just the thought makes me feel ill.

Its just that DH doesn't like Chinese :rolleyes:. So we tend to go to where the menu is more varied (and has a good veggie choice! ).

And a HUGE _pale_ to chocolate fountains from me too. I'm the same with dips at buffets! _pale_

xx

MadDogWoman_2

Millie's Mum - Katie loves her cups of tea, we get kids teabags from Tesco that are decaff and are vanilla flavoured - she loves them, but DH and I never get a full cup of tea when she is around as she likes to help herself once it's cool enough. She has her own tea cup.

My_Fathers_Daughter

Sami - at one of the supermarkets (I can't remember at the moment) you can buy local milk from a named dairy. More expensive but I like to buy it to buy local.
Alternatively I buy from our local farm shop when I go past so I know it is locally produced.




3 - personally I don't think a buffet is a romantic meal. You have to keep getting up (often individually if you don't want to leave your handbag or carry it with you) and the waiters are always ready to pounce the second your plate is empty! Personal opinion. xx




FWIW - gripe water seems to have settled the tummy of my trumpy 10 month old baby