Sainsburys refused to sell OH a bottle of wine

penguin83

I don't even try and buy alcohol any more, I am 26 but have no id (dont drive, never been abroad) and often go shopping to Sainsburys with my 6 year old and 4 year old - I wouldnt have a hope in hell of getting served which is weird as I never had a problem getting served in the same shop when I was 17!

I ask my dad to get any alcohol I need now - its too embarrasing! xx

Alibat

I have a 17 year old DD and on the rare occasions I buy anything alcoholic when she is with me we split up before I go to the till and meet up again outside the shop. It's absolute madness (and means I have to do the packing by myself :rolleyes: ) but it saves a lot of bother.

Amanda65

mysmellytoes wrote: »

At a local co-op I was first asked for id (I am in my late 50's) and when i asked why they said that some local kids had been trying to get people to buy booze!

But this just shows the madness of the situation.
How on earth does seeing your ID when (and I am making a sweeping assumption here I know) you probably look over 18 prove that you are not buying alcohol for the local kids

gozaimasu

This whole thing was discussed on Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2 a few weeks ago because the very same thing happened to a woman who went shopping with her two children. I think it was at a Morrisons

It's a shame that the extra media attention didn't highlight this issue enough with the supermarkets for them to make a change and use some common sense in their judgement of selling alcohol to individuals. We all understand that they are liable for prosecution etc etc, and that the cashier is just simply doing their job having been told by management, but it really just p*sses people off a lot.

I agree with the credit card point made a while back too - if I'm paying with the card for the rest of my shopping then they should bl*ody sell me the alcohol too!!

Making it difficult for "normal" people to get alcohol doesn't make it any more difficult for rampaging under-age drinkers to get their hands on some booze!

:beer:

edgex

fluffybunnies wrote: »

How are the shop assisstants supposed to 'know' that the youngster is son/daughter? Do you ever think about the amount of lies that are told to us regarding age restricted sales? I know most of them from smoking when i was under-age.

At the end of the day it is not just the store that can be fined but also the individual shop assisstant - worse case scenario they can be taken to court and fined up to £5000 and get a criminal record if they make a sale to someone underage.

Try to have some sympathy for the people who you are bashing and don't judge anyone until you have done their job.


Incidently; trading standards say that the only acceptable forms of id are passport, photo driving license or a photo id card with the pass mark on it - the store should have a poster displayed to this effect.

which is where it gets stupid
those 3 are pretty much the only 'official' forms of id with regards to age

but, who is going to take their passport with them on a normal shop?
& what if you dont drive?

that leaves you with the only option of getting a photo id card, which you have to pay for
yet it does nothing but 'prove' your age, & it dosnt give you the right to purchase alcohol, the shop could still refuse if they wanted.

at least with a passport or driving licence, they have a purpose by themselves, they arnt just to prove your age, so if you used one as proof & they still refuse to serve you, you havnt lost out.

vikingaero

pandas66 wrote: »

plenty of parents allow their under 18 a drink or 2 without them immedietly becoming chavscum:rotfl::rotfl:

I allow/have allowed both of my lads to drink before 'age', now 1 is over age, I do feel less chavlike

So on completing a full shop at Mr S's (or wherever) and I get refused to be sold any alchohol then they would have a trolley full of food perishing :T cos I wouldn't spend a penny with them.

Sure there are plenty of parents out there like you Panda who are responsible. But for every responsible parent there is one who would think nothing of handing the bottle to Junior and tell him to fark off and not cause noise at home. How do you differentiate? Well if Junior is accompanying the parent where booze is being sold then you take the worst case scenario and refuse to serve.

The stupid thing is that we are penalising the supply side when it would be easier to penalise the consumption side - how about caught underage with booze in public = 1 week in a young offenders institute? We look to penalise shops and supermarkets and allow the real miscreants to escape with nothing more than a warning.

Tozer

Blacksheep1979 wrote: »

My only proof of being 18 or over is the fact I have a credit card - now this wouldn't be accepted as proof of being 18 or over (as you have to be 18 to obtain credit) as it may be someone else's, yet they'll be more than happy to let me pay on it - though it may be someone elses...

Could be your own card but an additional card provided on someone else's account.

eschaton

Amanda65 wrote: »

And when a store manager chases you through the shop yelling at you, I think I actually have the right to pass judgement

You're husband had already been refused. If I was the Manager I would be saying how many times do you need to be told that no means !!!!ing no ?

shellsuit

eschaton wrote: »

You're husband had already been refused. If I was the Manager I would be saying how many times do you need to be told that no means !!!!ing no ?

Refused only because he was with a minor.

He went back in without the minor to see if he could buy it then.

If you were the manager, you wouldn't be a manager for long if you spoke to customers like that.

mrsclarkie

I have to say,

I know SA and Managers have it rough but all thats required is common sense and politeness. Ask for the ID, ask who it's for but don't then accuse us of lying or chase us down an aisle, we all work in jobs i'm sure where we've been given a story I mean school teachers - who's to say the dog didn't really eat your homework, or that you don't feel well when there's PE this afternoon.

At the end of the day we all know there are responsible adults and there are not surely the store responsibilty stops at who they see to it's not their business if a parent allows an underage person to have a drink within the confines of their home.

Does this mean they wont sell a kitchen knife if you have a teenager with you

or how about for those who get shopping delivered if your teenager is at home when the delivery arrives will they take the wine back in case it's not for you