Peoples acceptance of disability/illness

Oscar_The_Grouch

jazabelle wrote: »

To be fair, you've not been disabled very long. There are people that have had it years, or from birth, and perhaps get a little tired of being called names

True - perhaps we should come up with a name for the namecallers - how about "Normal, Overbearing, Boring and Biggoted"

or "N O B B" for short.

How did it all go today Jaz?

jazabelle

Good idea!

It wasn't awful, but not quite what I wanted. Will update in the cafe in a minute if you're interested!

Invasion

I'd have to agree with Jaz on this one, I don't think anyone calling someone else a cripple, or any other derogatory term in relation to a disability, is acceptable unless it's something that's been discussed, my brother affectionately calls me a "crisp" or a cripple, but that's entirely different to someone maliciously shouting it across a carpark at me, or whispering it behind my back...

Jaz, I'd be interested to see how it went!

Indie_Kid

I don't like the term "crip" and would never call someone else that, in the same way I would never call someone a "blindy".

sandy71

I call myself certain (probably not very pc )names to do with my condition's as does my husband but I would I would never call anyone else the same, just as I would be upset if someone outside my circle called me names.

Anyway my tablets sometimes make it hard for me to say normal words never mind extra ones:rotfl:

Oscar_The_Grouch

So what we're saying here is that it's ok for us to call ourselves something, but if someone else used exactly the same word, we should take offence? I'm confused.....

I've never been one to worry about being PC; I'll quite happily call a spade a shovel. Are we all getting too PC now? Is the "nanny state" more accurately called the "grandparent or other elderly relative state"?

What I'm trying to get at here is that everyone seems obsessed with labels. Labour want to remove the class barriers, but want to target the middle classes in the next election. Where does it all end?

Perhaps I need to go and live in a cave up in Scotland.... Ah.... Can't do that or people will label me as a recluse!!!

Indie_Kid

It would depend on what context the word is used, I think.

A friend of mine once said she'll happily call herself a crip; but doesn't like others doing it.

jazabelle

Well, it's a bit like if you get annoyed with your wife say, and have a bit of a moan to your friend and then he turns around and goes "Yeah, she's a right b*tch." You would probably be a bit offended. It's one thing to vent a little to your friend, you don't expect him to turn around and say something like that about someone you love.

So some disabled people may choose to label themselves something as a joke, and allow people close to them to join in on the joke. You still don't want someone saying it to them on the street.

I think the whole thing about hating "being PC" is just as annoying as those that take it too far.

Political correctness to me is taking others into consideration, being polite and listening when someone tells you they don't like being called a name. And I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

krisskross

So why is it so bad to say someone is a cripple?

I have heard many people say they are 'crippled with arthritis', suffer from 'crippling migraines'. They mean they are effectively disabled by these ailments.

So is it OK to use the word as a verb or adjective but not as a noun? Or are you suggesting that the term cripple is solely used in a derogatory sense?

Indie_Kid

krisskross wrote: »

So is it OK to use the word as a verb but not as a noun? Or are you suggesting that the term cripple is solely used in a derogatory sense?

Some people may see it as derogatory.