Windows problems! STOP recommending Linux

Eric_Pisch

isofa wrote: »

You've got to love people who make sweeping generalisations (people that use Macs are low IT skilled or with no interested in tech, goodness, what a archaic idea, I know people like that running really poor IT depts...) and still use the 80s term "fanboy", yawn.:p

fanboy refers to anyone who is in the class "i bought this therefore its the best and everything else is rubbish"

i could have worded that better, Macs do hide the technology very well, they are very easy to use and so are good for those who dont understand or have no interest in how stuff works, this of course does not preclude those who do understand from using them, there are after all some very high end apps for macs, My sister has 100ks worth of hardware and software hooked up to her macs in her studio (however she can use the software but has no idea how the hardware works ), but still theres alot of what i would call power user stuff that you just cant do on a mac that really frustrates me, does this make macs bad or irrelevant, no many users are simply not interested in working at file level.

horses for courses and all that, the avg user does not have 4 64gb SSDs stripped as a performance drive and 4 2tb drives raid5'd in there PC

Eric_Pisch

isofa wrote: »

Exactly, just as my first post on this thread. People aren't really interested in the OSes (not personal users anyway), no one buys a computer to play with the OS. They buy and use computers to achieve tasks and create, and these are carried out in applications not OSes.

err i do, i play with lots of OSs

chunter

I started running Linux Ubuntu on one of my machines in March.
All my offline websites were on ther and I was using it for scanning photos, ftping, email and internet. It was networked to my Windows machines using Samba.

All started off well but i find the software just not good enough.

I was using the gFTP program which, compared to windows ws_ftp is plain rubbish. Abandoned it after a few months.

I find Thunderbird slow for moving emails (between folders).

Since the last Ubuntu upgrade, my Samba network has gone to hell altogether and Firefox is running at dialup speeds.

I've had all manner of directory and file permissions problems when moving files between pcs.

So now my Linux machine is scanning, some internet and email only.

IMO, unless you have time on your hands and you know someone who is quite good at Linux who can answer all these questions, it really is a non starter, for all but the most enthusiastic.

kabayiri

isofa wrote: »

I assume correctly you don't run a large corporate and you are recommending they change to Linux to save money,

Come on , Isofa, there is no need for arrogance.

Rather than assume, why don't you try asking me what I do or what I don't do!

For the record, I don't bother recommending Corporations to switch to any Linux. It isn't my job to. I do know from other colleagues in the field I work in that there is a shift towards Linux amongst some major European corporations. I suspect the reasoning is less to do with cost than other reasons.

I actually rely on companies using Windows systems, because that's where a lot of the security/hardening work is required.

I'm not sure what sort of fanboy I am either. My regular day to day desktop runs a Linux host, but I do have Microsoft Office running quite happily on it, mainly for Access database stuff I have (legacy). I also run Windows XP and Vista and (very recently Windows 7) in Virtual Machines, alongside a Win2K3 server Virtual Machine, and some other VMs. When you add up the cost of the retail MS licenses, you can see its quite a spend.

It's a right old mish mash.

From my limited experience so far, Windows 7 does indeed look sound.

kabayiri

Eric_Pisch wrote: »

horses for courses and all that, the avg user does not have 4 64gb SSDs stripped as a performance drive and 4 2tb drives raid5'd in there PC

Maybe in a different thread, but I'd be interested to know your experience with these SSDs Eric

(This is from someone who is onto their 3rd Raptor drive since March!)

Eric_Pisch

kabayiri wrote: »

Maybe in a different thread, but I'd be interested to know your experience with these SSDs Eric

(This is from someone who is onto their 3rd Raptor drive since March!)

444MB/sec write 640MB/sec random read, I am on a beta driver for my raid driver as its a newish board, im sure a dedicated raid board would be alot faster

in reality from the time u enter the password on windows 7 64 till all the desktop appears and the egg timer goes is 1.6 seconds

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=1045195&source=froogle

when you install something like firefox the install bar just instantly fills

kabayiri

Eric_Pisch wrote: »

in reality from the time u enter the password on windows 7 64 till all the desktop appears and the egg timer goes is 1.6 seconds

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=1045195&source=froogle

Damn, I think you have just cost me some money :rolleyes:

Eric_Pisch

kabayiri wrote: »

Damn, I think you have just cost me some money :rolleyes:

i had 4 10,000 rpm scsi raptors which i had been using for donkeys years, although it is a chunk of change over 4 or 5 years its less than a decent graphics card will cost you

Marty_J

Eric_Pisch wrote: »

but still theres alot of what i would call power user stuff that you just cant do on a mac that really frustrates me

I'm curious as to what you're referring to. Are you talking abut available applications, or just a way of doing things?

You mentioned in another post about how "the desktop gets messy"; have you tried Spaces?

sylvia2406

When Linux can do everything that Windows can do, it will suck just as badly!

Maybe in 10 years can linux be comparable to windows - but I remember they said that 10 years ago!

The reason linux has not done better in the marketplace is because it's still way too user unfriendly. Very rarely do you download a program and just click and install, usually you have to compile this and download that to get this one to work with that... etc, etc.

Oh and the fact that 50% of linux is done through a command prompt!! welcome to 1993!

I have tried many times using Linux. My stumbling block was getting help from the so called Linux experts. If I have a specific problem with windows I can Google the problem and come up with dozens of Win Experts who will put me on the right track. Not so with Linux -- Google a Linux problem and you go round in circles trying to find a solution. Guys who talk loud about using linux are geeks who want to show off and nothing more.

The only Linux I use these days in on my eBook reader.