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The harsh truth about Tory policies

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  • drc
    drc Posts: 2,057 Forumite
    I thought the Independent had gone bust what with its low (and ever dropping) readership? I'm also surprised that Hari doesn't mention the dangers of global warming. That seems to be a prerequisite for working for the Indy.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    LauraW10 wrote: »
    People don't just have a choice to work or starve do they? If there are no jobs then they can't work, so faced with starving they steal and mug. So yes you may well get pushed in to a corner but the outcome may not be as you expect.

    This was a big argument against minimum wage. I know of people who used to part time employ one person or two people part time, to lighten load. Employment 'red tape'' and minimum wage made those jobs either unsustainable on not worth the effort/time to maintain for the employer. I'm not sure what the answer is, because minimum wage is not high and people deserve fair working conditions.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    LauraW10 wrote: »
    When cuts are made there are lots of things that can go before cuts in benefits - tax breaks on pensions for higher rate tax payers for starters, cutting child benefit for middle class families, scrapping trident, another 1% on Vat, charging for road use, etc.

    Remember this too. Money for the poor is a good stimulus to the economy because it gets spent.

    I guess we're classed as middle?currently old higher rate new to-be middle rate tax payers, sving for a house? If we were tased less we'd spend more. I would also be an employer when we set up new business, if can afford to be. I'd rather employ someone, giving direct transferance of ''wealth'' and beter work environment by doing what I can see to be good and moral, plus have some money to spend, than pay huge taxation, not be able to employ and save rather than spend. At the moment latter seems the safe choice to me.
  • abaxas
    abaxas Posts: 4,141 Forumite
    To quote labour, the tories are the 'do nothing' party.

    Maybe we should rename labour to the 'do nothing that helps but spend £200 billion in the process' party.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    edited 9 November 2009 at 11:32AM
    treliac wrote: »
    Husband of a friend says he was done for this? Doesn't it depend on the authority?

    How far over do you think it takes then?

    My first sp30 was a similar situation. I had no papers because had just moved and everything was with DVLA, because hving address changes, this took massive delay and even though DVLA confirmed to the police they were holding my documents the police were forced after time to take it to court. Magistrate found I was not guilty of withholding documents, and suggested I appeal the three points and fine, (there was reasoning why it couldn't have been the speed tha camara said, and the whole court was in stitches at the accusation when the facts were revealed) but this had takn months, to sort out and I wanted it ove with so paid like a sucker and took the points: I was in those days extremely busy with barely a moment to spare, couldn't afford to spend more time on it. This is how people end up paying when wrongly fined.

    I make effort not to speed now. Very occasionally I tap a finger in annoyance, but the rules do apply to me.

    re speeding though: I went to an interesting talk by the people who do roads and road monitoring (WAAtkins are they clled?) best way to reduce speed is to remove all signage and parking restrictions; statistically - perhapsonly in habited areas, can't quite remember. Parking forces drivers to give way to each other, lack of signage forces them to think, look. But we don't like that, we like to feel we are doing something. We are control freaks.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    The UK Government made a net £20,000,000 from speeding fines in 2006-7 IIRC. If it's a revenue raising measure, it's a very poor one.

    If the speed limit is too low then raise the speed limit.

    That's the profit slice isn't it? This is after running all the vans, paying wages, and frivourously spending money to try to keep it within the county (was also on the BBC programme as to what it's spent on). Some of the stuff income was spent on included exotic trees shipped in from another country for the headquarters, "training days" where there is no training, more a day out etc.

    It's the savings from not policing the road where the "profit" really starts coming in to play.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    PaulW1965 wrote: »
    Can someone tell me how much people get in benefits? I thought it was a titchy amount of money? Why are posters making it sound like people on benefits live in Kenington & Chelsea. A generous amount of money - are you taking the P!!!.

    Some people on benefits do live in Kensington and Chelsea. There are LA flats in both.

    Recently there was a thread on why FTB should not complain about having to commute and that the wider area of SE made London accessable. It strikes me that this might mean that we should build some LA flats in cheapest area of SE so people using them are still near family, and sell of anything in szones 1 and 2, and three maybe. Perhaps Four :D, where noone really needs to be, do they?

    This could be a money earner.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    edited 9 November 2009 at 11:35AM
    Pedestrians shouldn't be in the road to begin with......

    That's what pavements are for.;)

    And if you really insist on crossing a busy A-Road or the like at a blind bend instead of a nice long clearly visible straight, which is really the only time you could concievably have a grudge against speeders, then you probably deserve a Darwin Award anyway....


    No pavements out here.
    ETA: sorry, finished thread now. :)
  • BTman
    BTman Posts: 354 Forumite
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    Some people on benefits do live in Kensington and Chelsea. There are LA flats in both.

    I've always wondered why we house benefit claimants in the most expensive parts of the UK?
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    Some people on benefits do live in Kensington and Chelsea. There are LA flats in both.
    i'm pretty sure that the City of Westminster has the one of the largest number of people on benefits, not sure what kind of benefits either - i'm not sure if it's in the UK or the South East though.
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