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The harsh truth about Tory policies
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What I have learnt from this thread is that "working" working class people resent their own neighbours getting benefits and would rather see them starve. Nice.
What I resent is people on benefit living in 300K houses with 50 inch tv's and the latest games consoles when there are pensioners freezing and staving to death even though many have paid taxes all their lives, single mums with babies living in rat infested properties, people with disabled children living in fear of their lives on their estates because of the local thugs.
Wheres the help for the real needy? I'm happy to pay extra taxes to help those with real needs but this government is wasting tax payers money because they do not live in the real world.
An example of this is free stay and play for the under 5's. These were set up to help single mums, teenage mums etc learn about motherhood. At my local one its all young professionals not any of the above in site.
The reality is just like the clever rich person who knows how to evade paying taxes there are many clever people who know how to exploite the benefit system meaning the real needy miss out.
Can you actually tell me what Labour have done for the poor in the last 12 years especially taking into account the position and debt we are all in at the moment? Its seems like a lot of rich bankers have simply taken the !!!! out of them.0 -
Intersting piece in one of the papers recently. The highest housing benefit claim in the UK was to a family living in Islington. Something like £4500 a month.
It is ridiculous. If they were working would they be able to afford to spend £4500 on rent? I doubt it. Yet somehow if you don't work you can rent out a bigger, better place than those who do. The system is totally corrupt.0 -
I often get benefit claimants in that want a bigger mortgage and property.
One was a couple both with bad backs that wanted to trade up to a nice leafy town, for no other reason than they wanted to liove in a better area. The area they were from was fine though.
They knew every trick in the book and openly argued we all need to gain as much advantage as we can - they argued a rich Doctor was merely exploiting his middle class access to the right education and so on, and that they as benefits claimants were merely exploiting the system they understood and had access to.0 -
To quote labour, the tories are the 'do nothing' party.
Maybe we should rename labour to the 'do nothing that helps but spend £200 billion in the process' party.
Another diddy David supporter.
Doing nothing would have meant that 1930's depression style conditions would have hit us.
Brown did exactly the right thing, no matter what the detractors say... and Cameroon, if he'd had his way, would have cycled past the dole and soup kitchen queues just long enough to pose for a Murdoch 'press' shoot before stowing the bike in the boot of his limo on the the way to Claridges.0 -
LizEstelle wrote: »Doing nothing would have meant that 1930's depression style conditions would have hit us.
but some people would have wanted these Armageddon scenarios to happen if it meant getting a cheap house :rolleyes:0 -
LizEstelle wrote: »Doing nothing would have meant that 1930's depression style conditions would have hit us.
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The 1930s depression was caused by the government "doing something"
If they had done nothing (which would have been the right thing to do) it wouldn't have been half as bad.
Unfortunately the bank and their puppets in government are now going down the same road as the 30s in an attempt to further enslave us.
We should be hanging the f*ckers from lamp posts, not cheering them on"The problem with quotes on the internet is that you never know whether they are genuine or not" -
Albert Einstein0 -
Unfortunately whilst economists overwhelmingly support this view the folk who teach our children are historians and they are roughly 80:20 towards the "FDR was our saviour" nonsense. The hyper-deflationary 1920-21 period saw the correct "do nothing" policy implemented by Harding and Coolidge. You rarely hear about that crisis now because it ended so quickly.The 1930s depression was caused by the government "doing something"
If they had done nothing (which would have been the right thing to do) it wouldn't have been half as bad."The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else." -- Frederic Bastiat, 1848.0 -
Unfortunately whilst economists overwhelmingly support this view the folk who teach our children are historians and they are roughly 80:20 towards the "FDR was our saviour" nonsense. The hyper-deflationary 1920-21 period saw the correct "do nothing" policy implemented by Harding and Coolidge. You rarely hear about that crisis now because it ended so quickly.
Yet another example of how misinformation is used to decieve the people and steal their wealth.
Ignorance is strength, debt is wealth, war is peace
(to paraphrase Orwell)"The problem with quotes on the internet is that you never know whether they are genuine or not" -
Albert Einstein0 -
Unfortunately whilst economists overwhelmingly support this view the folk who teach our children are historians and they are roughly 80:20 towards the "FDR was our saviour" nonsense. The hyper-deflationary 1920-21 period saw the correct "do nothing" policy implemented by Harding and Coolidge. You rarely hear about that crisis now because it ended so quickly.
Does one detect the teensiest bit of tendentious codswallop in the interesting use here of the terms 'unfortunately', 'nonsense' and 'correct'..?0 -
LizEstelle wrote: »Another diddy David supporter.
Doing nothing would have meant that 1930's depression style conditions would have hit us.
Brown did exactly the right thing, no matter what the detractors say... and Cameroon, if he'd had his way, would have cycled past the dole and soup kitchen queues just long enough to pose for a Murdoch 'press' shoot before stowing the bike in the boot of his limo on the the way to Claridges.
Maybe I'm being thick here but wasn't the credit crunch caused by the many spending money they simply did not have? Now the economy will be fixed by encouraging us to spend more money that we do not have and pumping printed money into the system?
Sounds to me like the drug addict who thinks they can give up by constantly cutting their habit rather than simply going through cold turkey.
From what I can see the only benefit so far from printing money are house prices are on the way back up and so are shares. Aren't these the 2 issues which caused the problem in the first place?0
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