Unfair hotel charges

isplumm

Morty_007 wrote: »

This is interesting....but sadly untrue. Maybe it might work for 1 cigarette, once, but if everyone smoked even just one cigarette in that room, the problem would be far greater. And cigarette smoke DOES get into everything.

Your right of course - I was just reacting to the OTT post above ... which you should never do ....

But if 1 person 1 fag one day + then 1 the next + the room is cleaned between days, then I don't think that would be a problem .... I suspect that the OP must have smoked a fair number - cause the smell must have lingered.

Mark

creased-leach

On a slight- but related tangent, a quick question.

I've been looking at literally hundreds of holiday cottages to let recently. Rather than simply "non smoking cottage" or "no smoking inside etc" many- and I do mean many- are stating "No smokers" or "non smokers only"

I'd never have noticed if it wasn't for the fact that I'll be travelling with a smoker this time, which drew my attention to it. So in fact, two questions-

When did this start happening? and

Is it even legal?

Thanks in advance if anyone knows the answers.

garthdp

creased-leach wrote: »

On a slight- but related tangent, a quick question.

I've been looking at literally hundreds of holiday cottages to let recently. Rather than simply "non smoking cottage" or "no smoking inside etc" many- and I do mean many- are stating "No smokers" or "non smokers only"

I'd never have noticed if it wasn't for the fact that I'll be travelling with a smoker this time, which drew my attention to it. So in fact, two questions-

When did this start happening? and

Is it even legal?

Thanks in advance if anyone knows the answers.

well if smokers ever get organised enough to form a religion or become an ethnic group, it would be illegal.For now it is perfectly legal for someone to protect their property from the effects of smoking.
I wonder if the ones that dont allow smokers have lovely log fires........


as for smoking in hotel rooms, speaking as a hotelier in a fervantly non smoking hotel it is a p in the b if someone smoked in a room as the smell does linger.I have asked people to leave before now for doing that.It does make the room hard to sell as a non smoking room for a few days to follow unless a deep clean is perforemed and that can easily rack up £100 in no time.

I dont mind people smoking they are welcome to sit outside and do it, I will even pick up the fag ends that some just drop on the floor (but i reserve the right to whinge about it)

.You dont just 'accidently' smoke in a hotel room and I know just about all smokers are well aware of the limitations on their habit these days .Therefore its not too difficult to assume that the thought would cross their minds that this could be a non smoking room and just check.It is really a matter of courtesy and good manners

skybluearmyontour

It's a £50 fine for riding your bike on the pavement. Thought I'd add that.

If you smoke on a bus the fine is £200 (not that it seems to be enforced much).

I think £100 is within reason.

Look on the bright side, if it was an airmiles card or such you'd be getting an extra 100 miles!

dzug1

isplumm wrote: »

Don't you think that this is just slightly a bit OTT?? 10 minutes with the window open & any smoke would have disappeared .... most likely to be replaced by car fumes from outside!!

Mark

10 minutes with the window open might fool a smoker with dulled senses into thinking everything was OK but not a non-smoker.

deeds

lol @ the OP not coming back to the thread or indeed anywhere else.
Anyone smell a troll?:D

MonkeySaving?

This smoking charge is unenforceable and can easily be claimed back via MCOL. I have already helped 2 people get their money back from a particular chain of hotels via tripadvisor, both were charged but hadn't smoked in the room. Basically the hotel would have to prove to the court that the person had smoked in the room, heresay from a cleaner who reports back to the manager won't stand up in court.

andyrules

dzug1 wrote: »

10 minutes with the window open might fool a smoker with dulled senses into thinking everything was OK but not a non-smoker.

True that - I stayed in a non-smoking room that smelled of smoke - and there is no quick fix. I was given a full refund, so taking that and serious cleaning into account I'd say the hotel is still the loser.

shiningdove

not_tonight_josephine wrote: »

Whatever the rights or wrongs of smoking in a non-smoking room, I suspect that the £100 is not a fair charge. As I understand it, under contract law, penalty clauses are illegal - ie the hotel could only charge OP an amount which related to their ACTUAL costs resulting from him smoking in the room, and I very much doubt that they spent £100 extra cleaning the room just because of a few cigarettes - as others have said, they probably just aired the room and spent a bit longer on the cleaning than usual. Possibly the curtains may have had to be cleaned but I can't see this costing a hotel £100.
The hotel cannot "fine" the OP for anything.

Of course, if he did damage something (ie cigarette burns on furniture) then the charge may well be justified. It sounds to me like they are trying it on though.

the £100 wasn't neccessarily just for cleaning. They can't give that room to a another guest that night .. so loss of money?

pogofish

shellsuit wrote: »

In a hotel, in a smoking room, there are ashtrays.

In a non smoking room, there are no ashtrays, so obviously this should have jogged your memory when you were looking for somewhere to flick your ash and stub the fag out.

Actually, no.

I have stayed in plenty hotels where non smoking rooms have ashtrays.

And I've also stayed in a few that will happilly let you smoke in a non-smoking room if you ask.