UK population 'to rise to 71.6m'

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

Yes it does. Instead of living in the cess pit of London they can live in the beautiful far north of Scotland for a fraction of the cost of living. It demonstrates that when people say "the UK is full" what they mean is "the south of England is full". Scotland is in need of migrants and has vast expanses of absolutely nothing.

Excellent plan.

Let me know when half the major employers from the south of england have agreed to move up here....

Because until then it falls a bit short on the practicality front.

"and where the employment exists to support them."

You may have missed that bit.....;)

Afriend_2

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

We can't.

The pensions crisis if we did would make this recent financial collapse look like a minor hiccup.

The aging population is growing rapidly. They have paid for pensions and healthcare all their life. And various governments have p1ssed it away.

The pension pot is almost empty, the only way to pay them is through maintaining an ever larger pool of young workers.

Immigration will be increasing, not decreasing, no matter what the politicians may say in public. They know full well there is no other way.

'Yes we can'.

Having new young migrants to support the older generation is an unsustainable ponzi. The country already has high unemployment, which would be even higher, if it were to do away with some of the public sector non-jobs.

I believe many older people can still work, even if it be only 2 days a week, in fact many would probably enjoy it.

The UK is a net importer of food, what happens when the countries exporting the food need it to feed their own population? It is the continual concreting over of green belt which is more unstainable in the long run.

It's efficiency and productivity which need to be improved.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Afriend wrote: »

'Yes we can'.

Having new young migrants to support the older generation is an unstainable ponzi.

Unstainable? One would assume that most things could be stained given the application of sufficient particulate matter.

Like your underwear, every time you see price rises on the various indices....

I mean, I could accept stain resistant, or possibly stain repellant, but unstainable is surely an exaggeration?

As for the "ponzi" part......

It gets my vote for the most misused term of the crash.:beer:

laurel7172

They're out of date. The trend is already falling off.

Why do I think this? I work in a school in one of the cities that has seen the most immigration from Europe. Two years ago, if a child left on Friday, there would be a new face in class on Monday morning. In our year group we've had two free places for about three weeks now. People, or at least people with children, really don't seem to be arriving at the same rate.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Afriend wrote: »

You have got the wrong guy Hamish - I am both heavily into sterling debt and own lots of assets (including foreign ones). Plus I secured a cheap mortgage product whilst they were available.

My work involves creating stochastic models to predict future possibilities.

Ooops.

It appears accuracy was sacrificed in a shallow attempt at thanks wh0ring humour.

If I keep this up, I may have to turn bear.....:D

spidystrider

I really do think we should rebuild Hadrian's Wall :eek:

baby_boomer

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

Instead of living in the cess pit of London they can live in the beautiful far north of Scotland for a fraction of the cost of living.

How can you say that and still be in favour of a national wage for public sector workers?

Thrugelmir

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Immigration will be increasing, not decreasing, no matter what the politicians may say in public. They know full well there is no other way.

Have you asked yourself why people would want to come here, with the whole of Europe to choose from?

Berlin is a "hip" place for the younger generation according to my nephew who vacated London for the whole of the summer recess.

treliac

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

Yes it does. Instead of living in the cess pit of London they can live in the beautiful far north of Scotland for a fraction of the cost of living. It demonstrates that when people say "the UK is full" what they mean is "the south of England is full". Scotland is in need of migrants and has vast expanses of absolutely nothing.

Scotland is an awe inspiring and beautiful country. I was amazed to learn recently that it has a population of only 5 million.

lostinrates

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Berlin is a "hip" place for the younger generation according to my nephew who vacated London for the whole of the summer recess.

Perhaps a historical blip that time spent neither in education or in (more focused) earning is available to a wider population, and that travel is cheap? as the cost of being a student goes up, so will the debt, and the oppertunity to get time spent not repaying that might diminish.

Looking to the difference in the way we travelled post/during university (my generation) to my sibling twenty years older is interesting: its too small a sample size to be ...influential on whether this possible reason holds any validity though!