The General Diet & Emotional Support Thread

maman

cave wrote: »

I went to an excercise class last night (first one!) we did a move to banish bingo wings.

Lean over so your legs are straight (although keep your knees slightly bent, not locked) and your back is straight. Sort-of in a sidey 'L' shape.

Upper arms are level with your back, elbows slightly out.

Lift your lower arms (take a weight (or beans can) if you want!) towards the ceiling, make sure you're not going sideways - aim for up and down - keeping your upper arms still.

Do three and whimper. Repeat until sexy. :rotfl:

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:I'm laughing at me trying to visualise (or rather try out in my computer chair which was fine until my face hit the keyboard) that exercise position! Do you bend at the waist so that your back is parallell with the floor? Then do you reach your arms out in front of you? and then raise your forearms from there? Perhaps you can put it on your blog? I went to a dance the other night and was really struck by a woman I've known for years (and always admired for being slim and trim) having really flabby, lumpy looking arms in a sleeveless dress. I resolved to make sure I firmed mine up so your exercise sounds good.

Yes Carmen, SW do still have red (although they call them original now) and green days BUT they now have new plan called Extra Easy and, believe me, it really is. Put briefly if you limit your intake of anything with flour (like bread, biscuits, cake and cereals), fats and sugar in and ensure a third to a half of each day's menu is fruit/veg/pulses plus ensuring you get your calcium and fluids then you won't go far wrong. It's not rocket science but really about educating yourself to eat healthily. It has almost no processed food which helps. I'll stop crusading about SW now it's just that I never believed I could eat so well and still lose weight.

On the underwear subject. I think if you are top-heavy (or any size come to that) it's worth investing in well-fitted bras. Obviously, they can cost a bit more but (and excuse the pun:o) it gives you such a lift! Helps posture and makes clothes hang better.

I like this thread. Well done lessonlearned for starting it. Onwards and upwards (in the new bra:D).

Eric_Pisch

seagullsim wrote: »

Seriously, do you really think that is helpful? This is the "Diet & Emotional Support" thread - I posted on here for a bit of advice, and end up being called a "fat biffer" and "jabba".

Shame - thought this was a site that might actually help people.:(

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

This thread was started in the arms/DT and got merged to the diet thread by some helpful mod

saucepot brings a unique and legendary bend to all threads in the arms/DT

seagullsim

Eric_Pisch wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

This thread was started in the arms/DT and got merged to the diet thread by some helpful mod

saucepot brings a unique and legendary bend to all threads in the arms/DT

If by "unique and legendary" you mean "idiotic and pointless", then I would agree wholeheartedly.

Apologies for starting the thread in the wrong place.

londonsurrey

Don't worry about your size. I started belly dancing, and you should see the range of body shapes in there. Age 8-80, petite through to Rubenesque, it's something that makes you appreciate your body.

Beginners come out of the class exclaiming "I've got hips!". Lol. This is because they've just learnt to move them in new ways they've never thought about before. It's really easy, I can say this with confidence because I'm really clumsy (got chucked out of ballet and forbidden to do the javelin, but I'm now moving from the Beginnners to Intermediate classes in belly dancing!)


The founder taught the belly dancer who appeared in Britain's Got Talent(or one of those show variations - there are so many of them!) In fact, you can see the girl from Mystika just behind the founder in the photo on this page:
http://www.bellydanceclasses.co.uk/

You hit the nail on the head about that graceful lady you knew with a curvy shape and good posture. During our lessons, the founder sometimes points out dos and don'ts during a pose.

She's really funny, and lets her tummy flump down and puts her shoulders down, demonstrating how with just simple shoulder and spine adjustments, someone can look incredibly sexy or "Oh dear, how unfortunate". Lol!

Eric_Pisch

seagullsim wrote: »

If by "unique and legendary" you mean "idiotic and pointless", then I would agree wholeheartedly.

Apologies for starting the thread in the wrong place.

that would be another way of putting it

lessonlearned

Another bad night unable to sleep. This lack of sleep will not help my fabness quest so today I popped into the chemist and bought some herbal tablets to help. At this stage I really need my beauty sleep if I'm going to get results.

Hi Carmen - sorry to hear you are struggling a bit - I admit it's not the easiest time of the year to be starting our quest - but we've got six months, and anyway it's not a race. I agree we need to think not so much in terms of dieting to lose weight but eating well and sensibly for optimum health and fitness. I've come to realise that this is probably something I should be doing for the rest of my life and not just for a few months to shift a couple of stones. Both my mother and her mother ended up with Type II diabetes and I'm therefore quite likely to be at risk. I want to do as much as I can to avoid this. So stay with the programme, girl, and we'll get there in the end.

Cave thanks for the bingo wings exercise, will add it to my repertoire.
Maman you had me falling about laughing at your antics - trying to exercise whilst sitting at your computer.

Cave I read your blog - how sad that you were so hurt by bullies when you were a girl. It's bound to upset you and you are doing really well at working towards putting it behind you.

I too was bullied and teased about my looks, not by my classmates and peers but my teachers!!! (And a few other adults who shall remain nameless - they are probably all dead and buried by now so I shan't speak ill of them).

I was teased about my height, my hair and my face.

Suffice it to say I was not blessed by the Good Looks Fairy, she must have flown right passed my crib. I was a plain child, (no I'm not being modest just telling the truth), my hair was baby fine and my mum made it look worse by keeping it brutally short in the mistaken belief that it would make it thicker, and I was overly tall for my age.

First the height issue. By the time I was 12 I was 5'7" - my full adult height (I stopped growing just as soon as puberty kicked in). Today of course children are much taller than they were 50 years ago and 5'7" is nothing (My beautiful youngest son is 24, 6"3" and just plain gorgeous).

Anyway far too many adults in my little world thought my height was hilarious and teased me constantly. Throughout my school years my PE teachers were horrible to me. Although tall, I was slender and had small delicate bones - think Twiggy. I was hopeless at any sporting activity, totally un-cordinated and terrified of the gym equipment. I couldn't run to save my life. (My gorgeous son was the same and was eventually diagnosed with a mild form of dispraxia (poor co-ordination) so perhaps I too was dispraxic).

Anyway my teachers would torment me calling me lazy and naughty. They insisted that "with my your long legs you should be able to run like the wind and jump like a hare". To them I was just a disobedient nuisance and I was always being punished for some inadvertent crime.

The only thing I could do was dance so I tried to enrol for ballet. Londonsurrey you'll appreciate this. "Oh no, sniffed the snooty ballet teacher, you couldn't possibly join my class, you are far too big." I slunk away with her laughter ringing in my ears, too embarrassed to reply. I was about 8 at the time. I took up horse riding instead, horses are never nasty like that.

My hair was a constant source of anguish. Thin and straggly and cut far too short, I would attach a net curtain to my head and pretend that I had long flowing locks. My poor mum totally misunderstood and simply thought I was playing Brides or Princesses. When she eventually realised what was going on she relented and let me grow my hair. By the time I was about 14 it was long and, due probably to my rising oestrogen levels, it was thickening up nicely.

Alas my poor face. I really was plain. No bouncing curls, no cute dimples or freckles, just sticky out front teeth and a pale, pasty complexion - all set off with a red angry strawberry shaped birthmark the size of a 10p piece, smack bang in the middle of my right cheek.

Not once did any child make any nasty remark, about my height, my hair or my birthmark. The adults laughed at my height and made pointed, pitying remarks about my plainess. They never mentioned the birthmark, they didn't have to. Looking back, my little classmates were extraordinarily kind and protective towards me, offering comfort and sweets when the PE teachers were so vile.

I had the last laugh though. With a miraculous twist of fate, I just happened to have been born in 1951, so that I was 15 in 1966, right in the middle of the swinging sixties. My timing could not have been better, because my "look" was just right for the times. It was the era of Jean Shrimpton, Patty Boyd, Twiggy etc. I was tall, leggy, with long straight hair. No longer a lanky stick insect I was now your typical sixties "Dolly Bird". The mini skirt was made for me, The local boys called me "The Gazelle" because of my long slender legs. My time had come, even the birthmark had faded a bit and no longer bothered me.

In 2006 the birthmark became cancerous and had to be surgically removed. Luckily it turned out to be Basal Cell Carcinoma which is the least malignant. My lovely surgeon did a fantastic job. On his instructions I religously massaged Bio Oil into the scar tissue and now all I have is a very fine white indistinct scar which is almost invisible, even without makeup.

Anyway - todays progress report - how I prattle on - I always was a chatter box.

Today went for physio. I go about every 4 weeks. She stretches me out and pummells me about. It's pure torture but it does help sort out the kinks in my back and neck. So that's enough for one day, will give the exercise a miss.

Todays treatment - plucked eyebrows (and a few stray hairs from my top lip - sssh)

A long soak in the bath to end the day. Bliss.

System

I'm still debating one which diet to go on in January I have sooooooooooooooooooo much weight to lose

Dontknowanymore

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

I'm still debating one which diet to go on in January I have sooooooooooooooooooo much weight to lose

I will always say Slimming world lol
I have done rosemary conelly, and weight watchers but felt STARVING!!!!!

There are varios threads on here, SW, weight watchers, cambridge etc, why not have a look throught them and see how others get on, how they work etc, might help you make your mind up x

System

Dontknowanymore wrote: »

I will always say Slimming world lol
I have done rosemary conelly, and weight watchers but felt STARVING!!!!!

There are varios threads on here, SW, weight watchers, cambridge etc, why not have a look throught them and see how others get on, how they work etc, might help you make your mind up x

I'm considering SW, there is a group nearby so won't have to travel too far. Are they good for support? Thanks will have a look at the threads and see what looks best.

cave_2

maman wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:I'm laughing at me trying to visualise (or rather try out in my computer chair which was fine until my face hit the keyboard) that exercise position! Do you bend at the waist so that your back is parallell with the floor? Then do you reach your arms out in front of you? and then raise your forearms from there? Perhaps you can put it on your blog? I went to a dance the other night and was really struck by a woman I've known for years (and always admired for being slim and trim) having really flabby, lumpy looking arms in a sleeveless dress. I resolved to make sure I firmed mine up so your exercise sounds good.

Right, from standing, lean over so your back is parallel to the floor, legs straight but *not* locked.

Have your upper arms by your sides, elbows slightly out. Lower arms hanging down a bit.

Upper arms move a little, but not right back (you'll hurt your shoulders). Straighten your arm, reaching up to the ceiling.

Try to keep your wrists in the same place, not flick them around like I do!

Basically, if you're doing it right, you'll feel it on the backs of your arms.

Make sure you stretch your legs, arms and shoulder properly first!

I'm neither a medical or excercise professional. I accept no responsibility for injury, flatulence or mick-taking from friends or family that may occur as a result of following my instructions or ridiculously bad graphic.