Bit of advice r.e incident at work

Bennifred

-BA- wrote: »

..............................................I have already agreed the situation was thoughtless but it was not worthy of a public outburst infront of the students!

I think we're all agreed on that, at least!:cool:

Oldernotwiser

-BA- wrote: »

READ post #26 and you will see I recommended apologising for part in situation but to absolutely not accept the behavious that was reciprocated.

As for your comment re. professionalism:

'An LSA who plans to become a teacher has more reason than a dinner lady to have to take a "professional" attitude. Dinner ladies are an essential part of the school community but they aren't "professionals"!'

Behaving professionally is not about whether your job role falls within a category of professional. Good lord is that seriously how you think? Do you think HR would say, "Oh she is just a dinnerlady it's ok for her to shout at a member of staff in the corridor infront of students?"

They are colleagues, their worthiness of the term professional is dictated by the fact they are in employment.

We all use language in different ways and we'll have to agree to differ on this one. I think the distinction is important and you don't, which is fair enough.

-BA-

No and the reason I don't is because it is about acceptable behaviour not the definition of professional. Acceptable behaviour will almost certainly be on record somewhere in the employee handbook or policies for the staff and will be no different for a head teacher, teacher, LSA, dinnerlady, grounds keeper or caretaker.

hothothot_3

TheEffect wrote: »

I'm thinking about having a word with her tomorrow about it and asking her not to talk to me like that in front of the pupils. I believe she has a grudge on me as she never liked me as a pupil. She also applied for a LSA position, but did not get it.

Should I have a word with her tomorrow, or was I in the total wrong?

I think a confrontation would not solve this, especially as you say there may be underlying motives for her issues with you and the door 'incident' was just an opportunity for her to release some personal pent up frustration.

The world of work is very often point scoring environments... I would let this situation pass, but be on the guard in future......your just making a meal of it, and that really is her job not yours.

onlyforboards_2

I think you are having a problem with this dinner lady as she is still viewing you as a pupil. I think you do need to to address the problem, particularly if she applied for the job you now have.

I would ask her if you could have a private word with her and then explain you were unable to hold the door open for her as you were concentrating on your pupil who requires your full attention. Tell her you are sorry if this offended her as it was not your intention to do so and say that if she feels she has a problem with you in future you would appreciate her dealing with in the manner you are speaking to her, i.e. in private. You could say that as a recent ex-pupil it is not helpful for members of staff to speak to you in the manner she did in front of pupils as you are sure she understands the problems this could cause.
And end it with a smile.

If you act professionally now she will not do that to you again.

andygb

juliescot wrote: »

andygb wrote: »

Which means what exactly?

I would have told them that they were blocking the pavement and should have some consideration for other users of said pavement. I would not have had to resort to swearing at them.

If you read my post again, you will see that I had already told them that they were blocking the pavement.
It was his response which made me swear at him, and it seemed to work.
When I was that age, my mates and I used to get up to mischief, but we would never be rude to an adult who we did not know.
Of course, this young lad may have ODD or ADD or any one of a number of other things which excuse bad behaviour/manners nowadays, but I don't think he will be stroppy to me any more.

juliescot

Not sure swearing at them will help with the respect aspect which is what you seemed to indicate was important.
At least you got past them and it was rude/ignorant/thoughtless of them to be blocking the pavement.

juliescot

hothothot wrote: »

I think a confrontation would not solve this, especially as you say there may be underlying motives for her issues with you and the door 'incident' was just an opportunity for her to release some personal pent up frustration.

The world of work is very often point scoring environments... I would let this situation pass, but be on the guard in future......your just making a meal of it, and that really is her job not yours.

I like what you did there:rotfl:

pinkshoes

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Why on earth should a member of staff give way to a group of children? This attitude rather illustrates how much is wrong with school discipline these days!

There was a member of staff with the group of children, so does that mean it comes down to which member of staff is more important than the other???

If a large group were approaching a door, I would politely give way to them, then walk through afterwards. If they let me through first, I would thank them.

Ironically in my local city centre, it's the "older" (over 50) generation that come across as the ones with no manners. The students and school kids are quite good when it comes to holding doors open in the shopping centre, whereas most "older" folk wouldn't dream to check if anyone else was about to walk through the door.

movingforward2010

Ignore her, she sounds like shes got a chip on her shoulder that shes only a dinner lady not a teacher