air conditioning units (merged threads)

espresso

patwa wrote:

Looks good, and also indicates that it might have an adjustable temperature thermostat which is better than just leaving it on and going by how it feels.

I might consider stocking these units, at the moment I'm selling Amcor and sub-branded units.

You can always get it, and return it under their 16 day money-back gaurentee. I have spoken to them and they are happy to take back products even if they have been opened, as long as they are still in a resellable condition. They are also really good about this, as they themselves admit the details given on the site are less than satisfactory to make a purchase decision.

Cheers and take care.

Hussein.

Is that just-coolers that you are referring to?

patwa_2

Coolers and humidifiers/dehumidifiers. The Amcors I've been dealing with thus far are coolers/humidifiers, but I figure a more expensive but more appropriate unit would go down better.

Hussein.

gromituk

growler55 wrote:

Split systems are dodgy for a lay man to install

Yes, I guess that - how do you pressurise/charge them?

but the Xpelair digitemp can be fitted by the unskilled without too much difficulty

But the manual is full of dire warning about "competent installers" or valid warranties.

Opening poster: have you done all you can to reduce the heat getting into the room: is all the sunlight blocked? Air conditioning is expensive to buy and expensive and environmentally-unfriendly to run.

espresso

gromituk wrote:

Yes, I guess that - how do you pressurise/charge them?

You don't have to as they come pre-gassed see here.

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gromituk

That's clever - but how? This company has something to hide - it won't let you download its installation instructions.

espresso

gromituk wrote:

That's clever - but how?

I believe that they are just push fit connectors like those used on compressed air lines.

gromituk wrote:

This company has something to hide - it won't let you download its installation instructions.

Not necessarily, they just want to know who they are providing them to! Some other company could post a weblink to their install guide otherwise and rob them of their bandwidth. I'm sure that they will provide if you enquire.

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growler55

gromituk wrote:

Yes, I guess that - how do you pressurise/charge them?But the manual is full of dire warning about "competent installers" or valid warranties.

Opening poster: have you done all you can to reduce the heat getting into the room: is all the sunlight blocked? Air conditioning is expensive to buy and expensive and environmentally-unfriendly to run.

In these safety conscious times I suspect that a company as large as Xpelair would be forced to put a standard warning that 'this appliance must only be fitted by a 'competent installer'.

In the context of the installation requirements of the Xpelair Digitemp the person must obviously be competant to:

A) Drill holes in the wall

Screw the unit to the wall

C) Connect the unit to the electrical supply

I note that there are no warnings in relation to the release of refrigerant gas to atmosphere or the need for refrigerant handling competence - this is because the person installing does not touch the refrigeration circuit (unlike the self-install split systems).

In the event of incorrect use of a self-install split system, it is possible for refrigerant gas to be discharged to atmosphere - this is an offence under the Environmental Protection Act 1990 carrying a substantial fine if you get caught (as well as being bad for the environment and contributing to global warming).

It appears there is debate in the EU regarding plans to clamp down on the use of self-install split systems as these may contravene more stringent regulations on refrigerant handling which are expected to be introduced.

So maybe home air conditioning users should buy self install split systems now - before they are outlawed.

gromituk

Xpelair doesn't just warn about competent installers: it says that the guarantee is voided if the product isn't installed by one.

If you DIY and you try to claim for a fault under the guarantee, they will no doubt ask for proof of professional installation and worm their way out of honouring the guarantee if you don't have it. It's then up to you to pursue the matter through Trading Standards.

gromituk

espresso wrote:

I believe that they are just push fit connectors like those used on compressed air lines.

So they self-seal until you plug the hoses in, keeping the refrigerant in the unit?

MiserlyMartin

Saw this in my local paper. These are systems with a seperate compressor and the control unit and vent mounted on the wall inside.

For up to 25 sq. m. rooms £595 installed
For up to 40 sq. m. rooms £695 installed
They even give you £100 off when you buy 2 units

http://www.eds-aircon.co.uk/

I would have one if I was staying in my house long term. Hurry up because those are their sale prices which ends at the end of the month.