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MSE News: House price rise predicted by MoneySavers

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  • wageslave
    wageslave Posts: 2,638 Forumite
    mewbie wrote: »
    I looked up poxy servers. See link. Too complicated for me. Luckily there is no chance of me being banned - I am far too nice for that.

    http://whatismyipaddress.com/staticpages/index.php/how-do-I-use-a-proxy-server
    You dont need to understand it, you just need to download something like Hotspot Shield and use that. Not that I think you will ever need it of course.
    And it's erm proxy servers.
    EDIT maybe not
    Retail is the only therapy that works
  • geoffky
    geoffky Posts: 6,835 Forumite
    edited 5 September 2009 at 1:09PM
    Cleaver wrote: »
    And what's your point? Even if your statistic is true (source?) then why does someone having debt make their opinion of the direction of house prices any less valid than someone with no debt?

    We've recently paid of our mortgage. This doesn't, unfortunately, mean that I have suddenly developed superhuman powers at predicting house price movements: I'm as clueless as I was this time last year.

    Vested interest maybe?? ( OFF)

    If house prices were rising like mad these poor fools would have no debt as they could mew their lives away just like they used to..
    It is nice to see the value of your house going up'' Why ?
    Unless you are planning to sell up and not live anywhere, I can;t see the advantage.
    If you are planning to upsize the new house will cost more.
    If you are planning to downsize your new house will cost more than it should
    If you are trying to buy your first house its almost impossible.
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    geoffky wrote: »
    Vested interest maybe?? ( OFF)

    If house prices were rising like mad these poor fools would have no debt as they could mew their lives away just like they used to..

    Most people have some form of interest in houses prices Geoff because most people own one. You could call this a vested interest. My main point was that assuming that all users of this website are 'poor fools' and would 'mew their lives away' is patronising, quite insulting and a complete generalisation.

    The attitute that 'our' board is full of informed, intelligent, economic geniuses who understand and are able to analyse and predict the property market whilst the rest of the public, or users of this site, are all 'poor fools' who simply follow what the media tell them is complete tripe. Shall we dig up some of our old predictions on house prices for 2009? I think mine was a drop of around 20% if I remember rightly. I would like to think that I'm educated, economically aware and pretty well informed yet I will get this completely wrong. What were your predictions for house prices in 2009 Geoff? My bet is that the 'poor fools' of this site may be more accurate for 2010 than you were for 2009.
  • geoffky
    geoffky Posts: 6,835 Forumite
    The poor fools are plenty on this site..go over and read some of the heartbreaking stories on the debt board....and yes most were fools
    It is nice to see the value of your house going up'' Why ?
    Unless you are planning to sell up and not live anywhere, I can;t see the advantage.
    If you are planning to upsize the new house will cost more.
    If you are planning to downsize your new house will cost more than it should
    If you are trying to buy your first house its almost impossible.
  • geoffky
    geoffky Posts: 6,835 Forumite
    Shut up geoff.

    Rupert did you not like me bringing your friend in to it?
    It is nice to see the value of your house going up'' Why ?
    Unless you are planning to sell up and not live anywhere, I can;t see the advantage.
    If you are planning to upsize the new house will cost more.
    If you are planning to downsize your new house will cost more than it should
    If you are trying to buy your first house its almost impossible.
  • Dan:_4
    Dan:_4 Posts: 3,795 Forumite
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    geoffky wrote: »
    breaking news...70% of this sites users are in the pooh pooh with debt...thats why they are here...

    Maybe so, but dosen't mean they are all homeowners.
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    geoffky wrote: »
    The poor fools are plenty on this site..go over and read some of the heartbreaking stories on the debt board....and yes most were fools

    This site has over 500,000 members, so of course there are 'fools' on this site. Take a random half a million people from society and you'll have a good few thousand who are geniuses and a load of complete idiots too. The vast majority will just be sensible, every-day people who can think for themselves, will have valid, informed opinions and go about their lives normally. They will make mistakes of course, but who doesn't?

    So by going on to a website with loads of sections, going specifically to the one with people in debt, then reading posts by people wanting help and advice, yes, you will find 'fools' (your term, not mine).

    If I was a cruel man I would suggest using a mirror in your search for a fool. I'm not cruel though Geoff, so I won't.
  • mewbie_2
    mewbie_2 Posts: 6,058 Forumite
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    Cleaver wrote: »
    The vast majority will just be sensible, every-day people who can think for themselves, will have valid, informed opinions and go about their lives normally.
    Sheeple is the collective noun.

    tbh I think you are over egging the thinking for themselves bit. And the valid, informed opinions.

    Read any Huxley, or Orwell?
  • geoffky
    geoffky Posts: 6,835 Forumite
    Diana Spencer..jade goody..big brother...ant and dec...wogon and the floral dance...mr blobby.. the birdy song .and more and more........i rest my case my lord...
    It is nice to see the value of your house going up'' Why ?
    Unless you are planning to sell up and not live anywhere, I can;t see the advantage.
    If you are planning to upsize the new house will cost more.
    If you are planning to downsize your new house will cost more than it should
    If you are trying to buy your first house its almost impossible.
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    mewbie wrote: »
    Sheeple is the collective noun.

    tbh I think you are over egging the thinking for themselves bit. And the valid, informed opinions.

    You honestly think that the half a million users of this website are all 'sheeple'?

    I understand the bearish and bullish views on markets and the economy and completely respect both views in many ways. I don't really get the contempt shown towards anyone else who has any type of contrary view, especially when it gets shot down on the basis that the opinion was formed simply on following the media or without thinking. I would argue that Hamish's constant belief that everything is great, or Amcluesent's view that everything is doomed is more of a 'sheeple' way of thinking.

    That comment wasn't directly pointed at you Mewbs, just a general thought. And I've slagged off both a 'bear' and a 'bull' which will probably confuse the f*ck out of rewired and rewired3.
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