Sky cards from XL Trading

Antispam

Oh nice to see you dont like to disclose your personnel details could be because you are running an illegal operation?

Do you really think hiding this information will stop the likes of Fast or Microsoft getting hold of you.

underlay_guru

Any explanation why the website does not fully adhere to Distance Selling Regulations yet? (This is the 7th time of asking by the way...)

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2000/20002334.htm

...didn't think so buster.

underlay_guru

by the way, the regulations are here:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2000/20002334.htm

...no excuses!

JasonLVC

XLTradingUK wrote: »

We are not gracing this forum with replys anymore, everything can be explained over at our place but since non of you wish to partake of our little challenge (cowards) then there is nothing more to say really

If you are not gracing us....why are you still....gracing us with your presence?.

We have taken this matter to a higher power now and since MSE do not care enough to remove the thread for you - we we will have it binned by Google themselves who WILL delete this thread from being spidered and from showing on search engines.

So the 'higher power' is Google?. You clearly cannot remove the posts from MSE becuase they are factual and correct. Good luck with Google.

Good Day
It is for me!.

EDIT: Linkypoo.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/02/google_dotworlds_libel_claim/

Anyone can file a defamation claim XL, winning it is what matters and US libel laws are different to UK ones. The article you link to makes it clear that Google have not actually removed the content (why would they, no laws have been broken) and so a fairly pointless article really.

God bless the Defamation Act of 1996
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1996/1996031.htm

Well, it has took you all weekend to find the actual law. Perhaps we can all post various Acts...come to think of it, we've posted the Companies Act on here to show where your website was illegal, not that you've changed your website yet.

How can you sue for defamation when you have accepted the website breaks a number of laws?. No lies, therefore no defamation. Blime,y your 'team of lawyers' must be charging you a fortune for all this - should have come to MSE and saved yourself a fortune.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-remove-false-libelous-information-about-yourself-online/
Even in the US I believe now, a celeb has gone full pelt in order to get a bloggers details.
Bloggers and forums - both the same now.

UK and US totally different and again - but then you know that as you are the libel/legal expert.

I like the part that reads:

But this is all US content and is irrelevant to the UK and, coming back to the point you keep missing.....there has been no defamation as your website is illegal, you agree it is illegal and therefore there is no case to answer to.

XL, every post just shows how little you know about anything - you cannot even get your own T&C's on your own website correct.

All you had to do was put your trading address on the website - a 5 minute task - which you agree is required as you are (or represent) a trading and VAT registered company.

If you'd done that a week ago, there'd be no need for you to do anything, make threats (empty, but funny nonetheless) or spend your weekend googling US law (but we're the UK ) last time I checked.

underlay_guru

In case you have forgotten, this confirms that XLTrading's website is not abiding by the law:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2000/20002334.htm

sorry to be a persistent pain, but you just won't listen.

underlay_guru

Oh, by the way, if you want to view the distance Selling Regulations...

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2000/20002334.htm

Paragraph 7 proves the website is breaking the regulations.(have I not already said this???)

redux

Although it's been amusing to read this, it is surely well past its due time.

XLTrading, you are in breach of the rules of this forum. It's not allowed to make posts spamming to promote a business (though it must be said your version seems unlikely to attract many). In addition, the place clearly does not like discussion of certain issues related to the legality of copying software

And you still appear to have no concept of the principles of defamation law. An assertion that is provably true is not defamatory.

Your attempts to conceal your company's conduct by asking Google to remove discussion of it may backfire, if they do so, as that is how people discover new products

The Sky product seems to have been removed from sale on your website, and you also have a warning to existing customers about a loss of service on theirs, for technical reasons which you are negotiating with Sky.

These are both plainly observable facts. If people from here notice, and blankly say so, that is not defamation.

Are there any other products that are likely to disappear from your website?

Using marketing material, including pictures of a product, may be viewed by some of those companies as a breach of their copyright.

If these are not the actual product, but only a copy, it may also be a trades description issue.

Your opinion, that people are allowed to copy software for their own use, may be viewed by the software rights holders as not extendable to retail sale of copied products, if that is indeed what you are doing.

You ought to save the effort of making petty threats of legal action against MSE and its forum members. If you actually have lawyers, they may be quite busy when companies such as Microsoft Sage and Adobe start investigating your trade.

JasonLVC

underlay_guru wrote: »

Any explanation why the website does not fully adhere to Distance Selling Regulations yet? (This is the 7th time of asking by the way...)

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2000/20002334.htm

...didn't think so buster.

They are also selling copy DVD's without showing proper BBFC certification on the website - it is an offence to sell any movie/TV programme on DVD/disc without appropriate certification being displayed.

Yes, these are "customer copies" but the website has no checks to ensure that an underage person cannot 'obtain' these films.....and the website sells hardcore adult movies so another report going off this morning to the BBFC for infringment of several laws including the Video Regulations Act of 1984.

Thanks XL - just when I'd got bored of this thread, you help me find another reason to report you, once more.

underlay_guru

Hi,

did I mention that the Distance Selling Regulations (the regulations that sellers on the internet MUST abide by) are here?:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2000/20002334.htm

salerio

XLTradingUK wrote: »

EDIT; Users on here should be mindfull about what they type also - as we can easily ask Nominet for the contacts information and have a written report sent in validation on what 'salerio' has mentioned on here, which they are legally allowed to provide to us. We can ask Nominet IF any of the details in that statement made by Salerio were true and also keep a copy of the phone call OR get a written statement by them refuting such a post.

Go ahead. As I said I am more than happy to give my contact details, preferably directly to your solicitors. Just have them contact me, you can email me through this forum or through the address I use to post on uk.legal.

Unlike you I don't make threats when I make noises about taking people to court, I just send 1 letter before action and then issue the court papers 14 days later. This is what any solicitor tells you to do, all you do by posturing is to weaken your position.

You seem to just bull*it and I'm calling you on it.

ETA

Did a post of theirs just disappear when they were threatening me?