Disabled Parking Rant!!!!!

juliescot

gemmalouanna wrote: »

Suppose we will have to agree to disagree as i don't consider it to be hassling - I would expect them to follow anyone into the store parked outside on the double yellows and ask them to move regardless of if they are disabled or not. As I wish they would do with the so-called drop-off points where many people properly park when I often go just to drop off.

Anyone can ask them to move but no-one has the power to make them.

Unity

gemmalouanna wrote: »

Suppose we will have to agree to disagree as i don't consider it to be hassling - I would expect them to follow anyone into the store parked outside on the double yellows and ask them to move regardless of if they are disabled or not. As I wish they would do with the so-called drop-off points where many people properly park when I often go just to drop off.

It may well be that the security guard was actually breaking the law as it relates to the OP. When he approached her, she said that she asked him to first approach those drivers who had parked in disabled bays without a badge, but he would not do so.

Under the Disability Discrimination Act it is not lawful to treat a disabled person less favourably than a non-disabled person. In pursuing the disabled person in this way, but refusing to accost those illegally parked in disabled bays - this is exactly what he was doing.

If the supermarket introduces double yellow lines, with the idea that they should be treated the same as those on the public highway - then they should expect that disabled people will adopt the same rules i.e. they can park on them with their badge and clock for three hours .

My local Sainsbury's has complicated things even further, by placing the disabled bays directly in front of all their cash machines. I wonder which brain box thought that was a good idea? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

nicechap

custardy wrote: »

thanfully those of us living on the correct side of the border dont need to worry about private clampers

But hopefully you won't park in disabled bays in supermarkets if the scottish parliament passes this law - hopefully they will and it will be coped by westminster.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7725464.stm

Chelseadog

Tesco's are clamping down on people parking in disabled bays without a blue badge - you can report any car in Tesco's where they do not display their blue badge. They are given a warning and their registration plate is noted. Second time around, they get a fine!

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

OK, so now those who are able bodied are aware they have the option of parking as near to the supermarket doors as possible without penalty (cheers MSE, that was one of the really helpful hints I could possibly have done without), what happens when I accidentally stumble on the trek across the car park and scratch vehicles with the trolley, or clip their doors with mine as I can't squeeze in/out through the door in the smaller bays? Is it my fault for needing the facility of a disabled parking space?

Paparika

Chelseadog wrote: »

Tesco's are clamping down on people parking in disabled bays without a blue badge - you can report any car in Tesco's where they do not display their blue badge. They are given a warning and their registration plate is noted. Second time around, they get a fine!

But unfortunately not enforceable :mad:

juliescot

Jojo_the_Tightfisted wrote: »

OK, so now those who are able bodied are aware they have the option of parking as near to the supermarket doors as possible without penalty (cheers MSE, that was one of the really helpful hints I could possibly have done without), what happens when I accidentally stumble on the trek across the car park and scratch vehicles with the trolley, or clip their doors with mine as I can't squeeze in/out through the door in the smaller bays? Is it my fault for needing the facility of a disabled parking space?

MSE and other sites are to be commended in encouraging people to challenge illegal and unenforceable "fines"

If you accidentally damage another car, for whatever reason, you can take it up with the owner of that vehicle. I trust you are not suggesting that anyone should commit damage deliberately as that would be another matter entirely.

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

Fair enough. So I wait around to say hello to someone so pig ignorant that they insist on parking in a space intended to help a person of reduced mobility, just because they now know they won't suffer a penalty for it, and say

'oh, whilst I was struggling past your car which was in the place we really needed to park in (but that's not against the law, so it's OK), my hip subluxed and sent so much pain up and down my leg I fell over, sending the trolley I was leaning on flying and you now have a huge scratch on your 4X4. I'm not insured as a pedestrian, so you have no legal redress (much like the situation with the parking). So sorry'. If, as a pedestrian, I accidentally damage a vehicle as a result of struggling to cope with my disability, I am going to shuffle off as quickly as possible, hoping nobody notices.

I am glad you feel MSE are to be commended. It will make so much difference to people struggling that at least the people parking there aren't going to be fined.

juliescot

Jojo_the_Tightfisted wrote: »

Fair enough. So I wait around to say hello to someone so pig ignorant that they insist on parking in a space intended to help a person of reduced mobility, just because they now know they won't suffer a penalty for it, and say

'oh, whilst I was struggling past your car which was in the place we really needed to park in (but that's not against the law, so it's OK), my hip subluxed and sent so much pain up and down my leg I fell over, sending the trolley I was leaning on flying and you now have a huge scratch on your 4X4. I'm not insured as a pedestrian, so you have no legal redress (much like the situation with the parking). So sorry'. If, as a pedestrian, I accidentally damage a vehicle as a result of struggling to cope with my disability, I am going to shuffle off as quickly as possible, hoping nobody notices.

I am glad you feel MSE are to be commended. It will make so much difference to people struggling that at least the people parking there aren't going to be fined.

I do feel MSE are to be commended in helping people avoid unnecessary payments,

If you feel the provision of spaces, or the policing of them, is in someway inadeqaute the why not take it up with the supermarket?
As I have posted before if they were in anyway concerned they would find a way to deal with this problem, but they seem not to.

juliescot

Chelseadog wrote: »

Tesco's are clamping down on people parking in disabled bays without a blue badge - you can report any car in Tesco's where they do not display their blue badge. They are given a warning and their registration plate is noted. Second time around, they get a fine!

Is this a new initiative by Tesco? Is it for all their car parks in the UK?
How do you report the details?

From whom do they get a fine?