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Disabled Parking Rant!!!!!

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  • SomeBozo
    SomeBozo Posts: 1,195 Forumite
    Just to put this from the "other side".

    My business has 2 offices in the UK that allow my clients and customers to visit, for meetings, interviews etc.

    The office is leased from a private company who also manage the car park. I have enough car parking spaces for all my staff, plus 40 visitor spots of which 2 are disabled. When we set up, it became apparant that 2 spots were not enough as I have a number of clients who are disabled.

    I asked the leasing company to increase the number of disabled spots to five, which was duly done.

    Now, in the past I have told the private leasing company not to fine or monitor the car park (giving fines to my clients is not good for business) but since I increased the disabled spaces from 2 to 5, I was re-considering.

    I have had comments from my disabled clients saying they had to park further away as the disabled spots were taken. I have dealt with each situation as they come up but some of the excuses make me angry. "there were no disabled people looking for spots" etc.

    My point is this. Its my business, I pay a vast sum of money to lease the building, which includes the car park. So its up to me how the spots are arranged. I know my business model and I know these spots are needed. So whilst they may not be a "legal right" not to park in these spots, its my call! Not yours!

    Bozo
  • missile
    missile Posts: 11,774 Forumite
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    edited 7 September 2009 at 12:17PM
    juliescot wrote: »
    One is a legal issue the other a moral one.

    I have never parked in a spot "reserved" for disabled drivers and neither would I do so as I have no need.

    I believe that measures should be put in place to restrict their use to those people who genuinely need to park there, however I object strongly to companies acting in a cavalier fashion using bully boy tactics to rip off members of the public when they have no legal right to do this.

    Or do you think this right? (as I asked previously)

    I have not expressed any comment on fines. Nor did the OP.
    Why did you see fit to critiscise my post?
    I feel for you. :A
    The real problem is those thoughtless people who use disabled bays. Most know there is no penalty for abusing the system. There was one .......... on this very forum claiming he had every right to use one as he had a broken leg and was only in the shop 15 minutes to buy a CD :rotfl:
    :confused:
    Are you just a troll, here to cause arguement? :rolleyes:
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  • juliescot
    juliescot Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    missile wrote: »
    I have not expressed any comment on fines.
    Why did you see fit to critiscise my posts? :confused:
    Are you just a troll, here to cause arguement? :rolleyes:

    You may not have expressed an opinion but I asked a question which you chose not to answer. Which is fine.

    Did I criticise your posts? If I did I apologise, but then I don't take kindly to the suggestion that I somehow abuse the system. Which I don't.

    Nope - not a troll.
  • juliescot
    juliescot Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    SomeBozo wrote: »
    Just to put this from the "other side".

    My business has 2 offices in the UK that allow my clients and customers to visit, for meetings, interviews etc.

    The office is leased from a private company who also manage the car park. I have enough car parking spaces for all my staff, plus 40 visitor spots of which 2 are disabled. When we set up, it became apparant that 2 spots were not enough as I have a number of clients who are disabled.

    I asked the leasing company to increase the number of disabled spots to five, which was duly done.

    Now, in the past I have told the private leasing company not to fine or monitor the car park (giving fines to my clients is not good for business) but since I increased the disabled spaces from 2 to 5, I was re-considering.

    I have had comments from my disabled clients saying they had to park further away as the disabled spots were taken. I have dealt with each situation as they come up but some of the excuses make me angry. "there were no disabled people looking for spots" etc.

    My point is this. Its my business, I pay a vast sum of money to lease the building, which includes the car park. So its up to me how the spots are arranged. I know my business model and I know these spots are needed. So whilst they may not be a "legal right" not to park in these spots, its my call! Not yours!

    Bozo

    So how, in your business model, do you deal with people that park in spaces intended for disabled drivers?
    (genuine question - would like to how you successfully manage it and what lessons can be learned by others)
  • SomeBozo
    SomeBozo Posts: 1,195 Forumite
    juliescot wrote: »
    So how, in your business model, do you deal with people that park in spaces intended for disabled drivers?
    (genuine question - would like to how you successfully manage it and what lessons can be learned by others)

    The people who do it are in 3 camps. My employees, my clients, or other (other being postman, couriers, sandwich machine guy, water cooler guy).

    For employees, we put their car reg on the loud speaker and ask them across the tannoy system to remove their car. Happens probably twice a year now, usually new employees or employees from other sites.

    For clients, its a quiet word in their ear.

    For others, they get asked to move it. If they keep doing I report them to their employers.

    Bozo
  • juliescot
    juliescot Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    SomeBozo wrote: »
    The people who do it are in 3 camps. My employees, my clients, or other (other being postman, couriers, sandwich machine guy, water cooler guy).

    For employees, we put their car reg on the loud speaker and ask them across the tannoy system to remove their car. Happens probably twice a year now, usually new employees or employees from other sites.

    For clients, its a quiet word in their ear.

    For others, they get asked to move it. If they keep doing I report them to their employers.

    Bozo

    Thanks for that.
  • missile
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    juliescot wrote: »
    You may not have expressed an opinion but I asked a question which you chose not to answer. Which is fine.

    Did I criticise your posts? If I did I apologise, but then I don't take kindly to the suggestion that I somehow abuse the system. Which I don't.

    Nope - not a troll.

    IMHO, it is thoughtless people who cause the problem. I don't park where I ought not and thus fines are not an issue for me, I don't understand why it is such an issue for you. :confused:
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  • juliescot
    juliescot Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    missile wrote: »
    IMHO, it is thoughtless people who cause the problem. I don't park where I ought not and thus fines are not an issue for me, I don't understand why it is such an issue for you. :confused:


    It is not an issue for me at all.

    I merely pointed out in response to your post near the beginning of this thread that the person who parked in the disabled space had as much legal right as anyone else to park there. That is a statement of fact, which seems to have caused you some concern.
  • missile
    missile Posts: 11,774 Forumite
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    juliescot wrote: »
    It is not an issue for me at all.

    I merely pointed out in response to your post near the beginning of this thread that the person who parked in the disabled space had as much legal right as anyone else to park there. That is a statement of fact, which seems to have caused you some concern.

    If you re read the post (which you critiscised) you might see :rotfl:
    Most know there is no penalty for abusing the system
    "A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Gandhi
    Ride hard or stay home :iloveyou:
  • juliescot
    juliescot Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    missile wrote: »
    If you re read the post (which you critiscised) you might see :rotfl:
    Most know there is no penalty for abusing the system

    Could you point me in the direction of my criticism please.

    And in that post you said "claiming he had every right to use one" which I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that you were disputing, as he did indeed have that legal right.

    In my response to that post I did not mention penalties at all.
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