Wife had to take time off work to care for sick Daughter

Oldernotwiser

inspector_monkfish wrote: »

sorry, but if they are entitled to their opinions, then i am surely entitled to mine

thank-you for your kind words

But mine isn't an opinion; it's a fact, whether you like it or not.

I object strongly to be the victim of personal abuse from you and find it upsetting, so I won't be posting on here any more.

You might care to remember that your daughter will, hopefully, be better soon; my husband will be either worst or dead.

thorsoak

Inspector Monkfish

If you are concerned about your wife coming to the end of any entitlement to paid time off work, why do you not take over care of your daughter for a while?

As a caring concerned father, I'm sure you could do it!

feelinggood_2

inspector_monkfish wrote: »

thank-you
that is the route she will probably go down - working during the hours our daughter is back in school and hoping that our daughter can gradually up her hours, and my wife will up hers accordingly

I'm not entirely sure (perhaps someone can clarify?) but aren't requests made under flexible working permenant? I thought that it had to be a permenant change to working pattern, and you can only make one request per year? I've known people to be turned down for temporary flexible working because of this.

Also, if returning in a phased return after illness, I'm not sure how that would work - will you know what days your daughter will be going back, and will work be flexible about this as this isn't the reason given for needing a phased return?

AsknAnswer

They are obliged to accept a sick note

As I have said before - they are not. A sick note (Med 3) is "advisory". It says as much on the sick note. There is not law which states an employer must accept it as an instruction for time off. It is simply to advise that the GP has diagnosed a specified or non specified illness, for sick pay purposes. Whether the person gets the time off is at the discretion of their employer, not their GP as people are often mislead into believing. Any employer can insist that person attends work, and it is their legal right. However if the employer had not referred to occupational health and insisted the employee attended then a tribunal may frown upon the employers actions, but it certainly is not illegal for an employer to insist an employee with a med 3 attends.

bestpud

AsknAnswer wrote: »

As I have said before - they are not. A sick note (Med 3) is "advisory". It says as much on the sick note. There is not law which states an employer must accept it as an instruction for time off. It is simply to advise that the GP has diagnosed a specified or non specified illness, for sick pay purposes. Whether the person gets the time off is at the discretion of their employer, not their GP as people are often mislead into believing. Any employer can insist that person attends work, and it is their legal right. However if the employer had not referred to occupational health and insisted the employee attended then a tribunal may frown upon the employers actions, but it certainly is not illegal for an employer to insist an employee with a med 3 attends.

Yes, thanks for the info.

I thanked your earlier post saying as much (I thought you were responding to my post then), because I realised they can insist on a medical, but I didn't realise they could actually refuse to accept the note and insist someone carries on working without taking steps to verify the illness iyswim?

arlybarly

I have been in very similar circumstances to the op over the years so i know first hand how stressful and worrying it is, however when my child was to ill to go to school i did not expect my employer to fund me if i wasnt there. You should take unpaid leave and let the school have chance to have paid temporary cover rather than have to pay out twice. I actually became self employed around about this time as well as it was my choice then when to have time off to care for my child and that has always been much better for my family because the only person i had to ask for time off was me.

inspector_monkfish

thorsoak wrote: »

Inspector Monkfish

If you are concerned about your wife coming to the end of any entitlement to paid time off work, why do you not take over care of your daughter for a while?

As a caring concerned father, I'm sure you could do it!

as mentioned earlier in the thread, i am not in a position to do that

inspector_monkfish

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

But mine isn't an opinion; it's a fact, whether you like it or not.

I object strongly to be the victim of personal abuse from you and find it upsetting, so I won't be posting on here any more.

You might care to remember that your daughter will, hopefully, be better soon; my husband will be either worst or dead.

how can you be in a position to know how my daughter's condition will be 'soon' ?
rather dramatic, but thanks for your help anyway

inspector_monkfish

feelinggood wrote: »

I'm not entirely sure (perhaps someone can clarify?) but aren't requests made under flexible working permenant? I thought that it had to be a permenant change to working pattern, and you can only make one request per year? I've known people to be turned down for temporary flexible working because of this.

Also, if returning in a phased return after illness, I'm not sure how that would work - will you know what days your daughter will be going back, and will work be flexible about this as this isn't the reason given for needing a phased return?

yes, thats the plan - once we know the mornings she will be attending school, my wife will hopefully match hers accordingly, and hopefully the days will increase as we go along

bestpud

inspector_monkfish wrote: »

how can you be in a position to know how my daughter's condition will be 'soon' ?
rather dramatic, but thanks for your help anyway

That is why she said 'hopefully'! :rolleyes:

Have you read back through your posts?

You were out of order throwing insults and you need to remember you are not the only person who is having a tough time!

What ONW said is fact, simple as, and not liking the facts does not give you the right to be rude!