Deducting money from my salary.

juliescot

sb13579 wrote: »

nope i work for royal mail but this economic climate was created by greedy uppermanagement. greedy bankers. and greedy politicians. this guy made one mistake. he gets low pay. and i feel sorry for him. the company shouldnt deduct his pay. especially in this economic climate. everybody makes mistakes even greedy uppermanagement. i bet they dont get their pays deducted if they make a mistake.

Why do you say that?
The OP says "I also get paid a fair sum for doing so" therefore salary doesn't seem to be an issue.

glossgal

I can't believe the attitude of some posters here, I really can't! The same people telling OP to 'suck it up' would probably be the first to come on here crying if the same thing happened to them! I don't believe anyone asked to pay an employer money would go skipping happily into the boss' office with a juicy cheque-apart from all the negative posters here of course, they would be banging his door down I'm sure :rolleyes:- and quite frankly anyone in OP's position who didn't question the legality of this deduction would imho be an idiot.

I also think the employer is on very shaky ground to make this deduction. A training session doesn't constitute custom and practice or form part of a contract unless the terms are explicit and agreed upon (which they are clearly nowhere near being in this case) and even then Im not convinced. OP needs at the very least to ask for a copy of this paper he signed. Does OP have legal cover on home insurance to get advice?

sb13579

juliescot wrote: »

Why do you say that?
The OP says "I also get paid a fair sum for doing so" therefore salary doesn't seem to be an issue.

:mad: well that makes it perfectly alright then doesnt it! he gets a fair sum!
you make me physically sick with that attitude. i bet its no where near the sum that the guy who decided to charge him gets. no where near the profit the company makes. its principals. nothing to do with how much you earn.

sb13579

Caroline73 wrote: »

Wouldn't it be better to employ people who don't make this kind of mistake?

wouldnt it be better to shut the hell up.

Zazen999

sb13579 wrote: »

:mad: well that makes it perfectly alright then doesnt it! he gets a fair sum!
you make me physically sick with that attitude. i bet its no where near the sum that the guy who decided to charge him gets. no where near the profit the company makes. its principals. nothing to do with how much you earn.

How do you know that the company is making a profit? The OP mentioned that this has happened in the company before and the boss is making sure that anyone doing it again is reimbursing the company for their mistakes.

Why should the boss work hard to keep the company going when the staff keep pouring hard earned cash down the drain by making silly errors?

sb13579

Zazen999 wrote: »

How do you know that the company is making a profit? The OP mentioned that this has happened in the company before and the boss is making sure that anyone doing it again is reimbursing the company for their mistakes.

Why should the boss work hard to keep the company going when the staff keep pouring hard earned cash down the drain by making silly errors?

i know one thing and thats you'd let people walk all over you. im guessing you'd hand over the money like a little !!!!!. the boss is probably on lots more money but as i said its not about money its about principals. and if it was me personally id rather leave and not pay. id also leave on the first day my wage went into the bank so they couldnt deduct it. and no i wouldnt work my notice. and honeslty i have done this in the past. companys dont take you to court its too expensive. but each to their own, enjoy being your managers little !!!!!.

Zazen999

sb13579 wrote: »

i know one thing and thats you'd let people walk all over you. im guessing you'd hand over the money like a little !!!!!. the boss is probably on lots more money but as i said its not about money its about principals. and if it was me personally id rather leave and not pay. id also leave on the first day my wage went into the bank so they couldnt deduct it. and no i wouldnt work my notice. and honeslty i have done this in the past. companys dont take you to court its too expensive. but each to their own, enjoy being your managers little !!!!!.

No, I'd check my contract. You make lots of little assumptions don't you?

I'm a Director and no, I wouldn't let people walk all over me, and no, I'm not my manager's little [whatever]......I think it would be worth losing the £200 to see you walk out the door.

But as you say, each to their own.

saint1d

Zazen999 wrote: »

Why should the boss work hard to keep the company going when the staff keep pouring hard earned cash down the drain by making silly errors?

I agree completely, but surely I shouldnt get penalised for other people's repeat offences? I think a warning would be reasonable. It's like getting sacked with no disciplinary procedure. Yes it's hard earned cash, but as an employee I am also working hard for that cash! Like I previously said, it's not that I am unwilling to make a contribution towards the costs, I just dont like being threatened or forced into it.

But again the majority of this thread is totally off topic in that it's not answering the question.

Today I found the letter issued after the training session which stated that they would recoup the money following deliberate mistreatment of company property. I think it's fair to say I did not do this deliberately. The staff handbook mentions nothing about deduction of wages. The disciplinary procedure also states that they can only terminate my conract following gross misconduct, again I do not feel that this is the case. Tomorrow I will ask for a copy of my contract and check it out over the weekend.

juliescot

sb13579 wrote: »

:mad: well that makes it perfectly alright then doesnt it! he gets a fair sum!
you make me physically sick with that attitude. i bet its no where near the sum that the guy who decided to charge him gets. no where near the profit the company makes. its principals. nothing to do with how much you earn.

You mentioned the low pay not the OP and that was why I asked why you had brought that into the equation.

You are speculating as to what people earn and what profit (or indeed loss) the company is making, neither of which have anything to do with the matter at hand.


Hope you are feeling better and weren't sick anywhere that couldn't be cleaned up easily.

onlyforboards_2

Have you spoken to a union about this?
The implications if this is correct are terrifying.
Who could afford the risk of going to work?