Deducting money from my salary.

Amistoso_2

Caroline73 wrote: »

You pull up to a petrol pump, there are 3 hoses. It's not rocket science to get the correct one. The OP said it was 'reckless or neligent' but it was negligent.

It's not just what happened but the basic principle of doing the job properly. This was a totally avoidable mistake.

What if a pharmacist just picked up the wrong medicine and gave it a patient - would it be a silly mistake then or negligent?

Wow, your a nurse? sorry but with an attitude like yours I would hate to be a patient in your care!
People make mistakes, it's a fact of life. To compare this to somoene dying is total nonsense.
My other half owns a garage and you'd be surprised at how many people make this mistake, if you drive a different vehicle for work and at home, someone may just be on autopilot and pick up the hose they use for their home car. Doesn't make them dumb or incompetent, it makes them human.
So if you damaged a very expensive peice of equipment at work, would you be totaly OK with footing the bill for thousands of pounds to right your wrong?
Sorry, didn't mean to go off on one but everyone one makes mistakes be a bit more gracious
OP, hope you get a better job and can stick 2 fingers up to them

hundredk

saint1d wrote: »

I find your post to be somewhat insulting and small minded. I hope one day you make the same silly mistake I have made I realise that unfortunate things can quite easily happen to anyone at anytime.

Hey, have another read, I'm sticking up for you.;)

hundredk

saint1d wrote: »

Look I really wish I hadnt bothered posting here at all, I came to this site for some advice, I think Martin Lewis is great and hoped the people on the forum would be helpful.

It seems to be the impression from the responses that you presume I am some kind of idiot. For starters I am not just a van driver, however on occasion I have to drive a van (not that I would be small minded enough to judge someone who drives a van). I do not wish to post what I do for a living incase my employer comes across this for whatever reason, but if it makes you feel better, I have to be qualifierd for what I do, and I also get paid a fair sum for doing so. Also I do not want to get into the situation where I am slagging him off for whatever reason.

Yes I am in the process of looking for another job, but unfortunately there aren't that many around at the moment, and I really dont want to take a huge drop in wages just to get out. Also off topic I have already reported him to the HSE and an investigation is on-going.

To the person that is a nurse, yes if you made an error at work you could kill someone, if I made an error at work I could also kill someone, and if I did I would expect whatever necessary action to be taken against me. But I ask you this, if you had to, for whatever reason use a company vehicle, and you accidentally (stupidly) put the wrong fuel in, would you have to pay for it? I expect the answer is no. My wife works for the NHS and there is no way she would have to pay for something that got damaged.

In my opinion I would expect an employer to take the necessary disciplinary action, and if a similar incident happended again then to escalate things further. It all comes down to the type of employer, someone who is reasonable and someone who just thinks about themselves. Trust me, I am a very hardworking, flexible and intelligent worker, but I have done something silly. My boss is not a nice person, he rips off other people, has no regard for his workers and flaunts the H&S laws, endagering other peoples lives. Again I do not want to discuss all this cr*p, it's irrelevant, its my problem to deal with, it's totally off topic.

When I attended this training session, I signed the slip when it started, and my boss talked about x,y,z. When he mentioned this deducting money off wages I thought to myself that he cant do that unless it is written into my contract. At that point I never gave it a second thought.

So I guess I will hit the reply button and wait to get slagged off for being some kind of idiot by people who seem to be so far up their own backsides they can see daylight.

To the people who have so far helped to answer my query, thanks for your input I appreciate it.

If everyone posted what you wanted to hear rather than advice about your situation that would not be particularly helpful. Sometimes advice can be that the other party is right.

I made the comment about the van driver as a comparison, not to state it was your vocation or demean van drivers in any way. This comparison was defending your point that anyone can make a mistake.

I would agree that most likely the nurse wouldn't be expected to pay if they mis-fuelled but that's not relevant to your original query because it's a different employer with different T&C's and no document signed to say they accept such liability.

The bit in green was another mistake, oversight, misconception, call it what you will but it does entitle the employer to seek recovery of costs that are down to negligence.

Beating the employer up about other problems doesn't change this one.

tandraig

jeez - i cant believe how judgmental some of the posts are. and i am sure that most of those posters started off looking for advice - not slagging off.
Saint1d - not all posters on here are so nasty - there are some very very nice helpful people......unfortunately your post attracted some of the not so nice ones.
I wouldnt give the boss a penny - this mistake happens often - and i suspect the boss is padding the cost anyway! he has no right to make unauthorised deductions from your pay - tell him if he does so you will take it further .
I hope you find a job with a better company soon! good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zazen999

tandraig wrote: »

jeez - i cant believe how judgmental some of the posts are. and i am sure that most of those posters started off looking for advice - not slagging off.
Saint1d - not all posters on here are so nasty - there are some very very nice helpful people......unfortunately your post attracted some of the not so nice ones.
I wouldnt give the boss a penny - this mistake happens often - and i suspect the boss is padding the cost anyway! he has no right to make unauthorised deductions from your pay - tell him if he does so you will take it further .
I hope you find a job with a better company soon! good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just because an answer isn't in agreement with the OP's needs; doesn't make it nasty.

And contrary to popular opinion; if the incorrect fuel is put into an engine, it can be a costly mistake to rectify....certainly alot more than £200. Which is why the £200 probably relates to the excess on the insurance rather than the cost of the actual work itself.

Oldernotwiser

saint1d wrote: »

No I have not reported him for fraud yet, I would be out of a job if he lost his business, but I will do that when I leave.

So that all your fellow workers will be out of a job.....nice!

juliescot

tandraig wrote: »

jeez - i cant believe how judgmental some of the posts are. and i am sure that most of those posters started off looking for advice - not slagging off.
Saint1d - not all posters on here are so nasty - there are some very very nice helpful people......unfortunately your post attracted some of the not so nice ones.
I wouldnt give the boss a penny - this mistake happens often - and i suspect the boss is padding the cost anyway! he has no right to make unauthorised deductions from your pay - tell him if he does so you will take it further .
I hope you find a job with a better company soon! good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is of course possible that as the OP signed some piece of paper this gave the employer the "right" to deduct monies for damage.

tandraig

julie - read the thread - the op signed he recieved training - not authorising employer to make deductions! where do you get the idea if you sign 'some piece of paper it automatically becomes law? it doesnt !
I was also pointing out that the employer had quoted a nice round sum for damages to van - employee would be entitled to see how damages arrived at -what does it actually cost if you accidentally put unleaded in diesel van?

juliescot

I read the thread - suggest you do the same.

The OP said they had attended a meeting and signed a piece of paper. At that meeting one of the things mentioned was that the company might deduct money from employees.
From the employer's point of view, the fact that no objection was raised and the paper signed they might feel that this gives them the right to deduct monies from staff in the case of damage. I did also point out that the employer might have a difficult time trying to prove this, but then again maybe not

sb13579

what a set of !!!!!!!s. if they do take the money make sure you revise your contract and see if they can. after this work as slowly as you can within reason, become a total pain in there bottoms. as long as its within the contract. do NO favours. NO overtime. just do exactly what your contract says and nothing more. never cover sick days. i hate upper management that do this. are you in a union? join one.