Benefit cheat - but family member - help?

Mojisola

Sarahlou wrote: »

Wish I could get up at 9am, stratch my backside, feed my 4 year old son a tin of spaghetti for his breakfast (i kid you not)..sit and watch JK. Then when other SIL drops child off, plonk them infront of tv and play on facebook until 5pm. Oh and in between, feed both children food from the chip shop for their lunch. What a life eh!

Come on, everyone, don't all get so hung up on the tin of spaghetti. Sarah can't list everything the children get given to eat. I took these two examples - spaghetti and chips - as indicative of the SIL's "care" for the children. I certainly wouldn't my kids being looked after this way.

consultant31

miserly_mum wrote: »

When I was a single mum a few years ago and on income support i had to go to an interview every 6 months with a one parent advisor.

At the time I had 3 school age children and 2 under 4's. Everytime I went she did the usual calculations and advised me that although it was up to me but financially I would be considerably worse off going back to work. I knew that as i'd already tried it. Bear with me here........

Eventually I got a new advisor who gave me some very interesting info.

Basically if you are a single mum on benefits and want to work but like me would be financially worse off there was a solution. You can register as a child minder and look after a child in your own home AND keep the first £80 a week without it affecting your benefit.There were even start up grants for safety equipment etc. £80 was the figure at the time but that was about 5 years ago so would probably be more now.

I thought this was too good to be true but she explained it was to help women like me keep our toe in the water of employment ie not going for a job in the future and having years of being unemployed as that puts prospective employers off.It also keeps your pension contributes up to date as you would be classed as employed.

She also explained that there was a real shortage of childminders and this meant a lot of ladies who wanted to work couldn't because they had no child care.

I think basically its a win win situation for the Government as the child minders aren't classed as unemployed anymore and neither are the Mums whose kids they look after.

I can't understand why it's not more widly advertised as it would be an ideal solution for many ladies like the OP's SIL. My advisor called it a "well kept secret"

There's much more to childminding than sticking the children in front of the tv all day though. They have to be OFSTED registered and are checked annually. They have to be up-to-date in first aid, Early Years development etc etc. I honestly don't think it's an easy option if it's to be done properly.

nottslass_2

MrsTine wrote: »

I think anyone who thinks a tin of spaghetti is a nutricious breakfast has some serious issues... I don't think it's a nutricious meal - let alone breakfast. Is it any wonder childhood obecity is on the up?
Would I look down my nose at anyone feeding their child that kind of diet? ehhhh YES!!!! I'd pawn my soul before I fed my child rubbish like that! If she can afford a computer and internet connection she can afford tesco own brand cereal and milk.

No wonder childhood obesity is on the up if you think that tinned spaghetti is less nutritious than cereal !!

You say that you look down your nose at somebody feeding their child a diet like that,well before you "sell your soul" can I point out the nutritional content of both ?

Tinned spaghetti (per portion) 109 Cals
8.1 grams sugar
0.1 grams saturated fat
0.8 grams salts
v
Shreddies (per portion)
218 Cals !!!!
18 grams of sugar!!!
1.3 grams sat fat
0.5 grams salt

So considering that the Shreddies contains double the calories and twice the saturated fat I know what I'd prefer to eat !!! (most other cereals are just as bad)

consultant31

jamesey07 wrote: »

i dunno why people r bringing different crimes into this for like drink driving and cars being stole etc, if someone where to steal my car r break into my house r stab me would i want them charged? yes and no, no because i think a lot of the sentences in the uk r a joke for a lot of things, me persoanlly i would rather get my own justice, eye for an eye etc, but thankfully i've never been in that situation, as i say again if she is jailed it's gonna cost a hell of a lot more so trying to save the country some money you'll actually cost the country more in the long run because she will still be getting her benefits and fair play to her, do i pay tax, yes i pay plenty of tax, and i don't smoke to the person who asked did i spend my money on cigs, by the way outta that £50 if she has to pay for food for the kids etc and is minding them for 8 hours a day i would actually be asking for a pay rise from the sister in law as she's taking the pi55 at only £50 a week

This is actually quite difficult to read because there's no punctuation, but as far as I'm able to understand it, you seem to think it's quite alright to be a benefit cheat and if you were robbed, it would be fine to take your own revenge without taking the law of the land into account.

Is this really what you think? If it is, I really do despair. I expect you also think it's ok to do as the politicians are doing as well?

liney

Oh dunno, Jamesey07: £0.60p x 3 meals per day x 5 days is £9.00 a week. £50.00 is more then ample.

RoxieW

nottslass wrote: »

No wonder childhood obesity is on the up if you think that tinned spaghetti is less nutritious than cereal !!

You say that you look down your nose at somebody feeding their child a diet like that,well before you "sell your soul" can I point out the nutritional content of both ?

Tinned spaghetti (per portion) 109 Cals
8.1 grams sugar
0.1 grams saturated fat
0.8 grams salts
v
Shreddies (per portion)
218 Cals !!!!
18 grams of sugar!!!
1.3 grams sat fat
0.5 grams salt

So considering that the Shreddies contains double the calories and twice the saturated fat I know what I'd prefer to eat !!! (most other cereals are just as bad)

Brilliant :T Just what I would have put if I could have been bothered. I think we can forgive MsTine as a new mummy (forgive me if wrong) for her rather extreme point of view but as a busy mum of 3 I can honestly say that although I spend a fortune on all organic this and that, get weekly abel and cole deliveries where the veg is so fresh I have to wash the dirt off it and cook from scratch most days - there are times - usually once a week - when you just cant beat a tin of something on toast or bunging a frozen pizza in the oven lol.

back on thread - I dont think you should shop her OP - she isnt hurting you (or anyone - unless you count spaghetti-gate lol). Live and let live. Concentrate on your own family and your own problems instead of adding to someone elses. As a single mum on benefits, looking after her own and someone elses child (for a pittance) - I really doubt she's loving her life right now. I'm sure she had dreams of how her life would turn out and its pretty far away from the reality. You on the other hand seem to be doing well for yourself. Until you've walked a week in her shoes I wouldnt judge - someone who spends all day on facebook doesnt have a very fulfilling life I imagine.

janninew

RoxieW wrote: »

Brilliant :T Just what I would have put if I could have been bothered. I think we can forgive MsTine as a new mummy (forgive me if wrong) for her rather extreme point of view but as a busy mum of 3 I can honestly say that although I spend a fortune on all organic this and that, get weekly abel and cole deliveries where the veg is so fresh I have to wash the dirt off it and cook from scratch most days - there are times - usually once a week - when you just cant beat a tin of something on toast or bunging a frozen pizza in the oven lol.

back on thread - I dont think you should shop her OP - she isnt hurting you (or anyone - unless you count spaghetti-gate lol). Live and let live. Concentrate on your own family and your own problems instead of adding to someone elses. As a single mum on benefits, looking after her own and someone elses child (for a pittance) - I really doubt she's loving her life right now. I'm sure she had dreams of how her life would turn out and its pretty far away from the reality. You on the other hand seem to be doing well for yourself. Until you've walked a week in her shoes I wouldnt judge - someone who spends all day on facebook doesnt have a very fulfilling life I imagine.

So you don't think benefit cheats aren't hurting anyone? I am constantly amazed that people on this thread think its acceptable to steal. I know its a moneysaving web-site, but stealing benefits is against the law, single mother or not!

miserly_mum

consultant31 wrote: »

There's much more to childminding than sticking the children in front of the tv all day though. They have to be OFSTED registered and are checked annually. They have to be up-to-date in first aid, Early Years development etc etc. I honestly don't think it's an easy option if it's to be done properly.

Um at what point did I say it was an easy option?

To qualify to be a registered childminder EVERYONE has to be vetted by the police and go through rigorous proceedures/interviews before they are approved. They must also have insurance and their homes must meet specified safety standards.

It's not for everyone (and not everyone could actually qualify) I was simply saying it might be a better option for the SIL and maybe other single Mums than staying on benefits. Or doing cash in hand jobs.

Personally i'd rather eat my own toenails than have to look after other peoples children all day, even if I was getting paid for it, but I have every respect for those who do it.

Witchfinder_General

Give me the details and I will report the SOB!

Fire_Fox

nottslass wrote: »

No wonder childhood obesity is on the up if you think that tinned spaghetti is less nutritious than cereal !!

You say that you look down your nose at somebody feeding their child a diet like that,well before you "sell your soul" can I point out the nutritional content of both ?

Tinned spaghetti (per portion) 109 Cals
8.1 grams sugar
0.1 grams saturated fat
0.8 grams salts
v
Shreddies (per portion)
218 Cals !!!!
18 grams of sugar!!!
1.3 grams sat fat
0.5 grams salt

So considering that the Shreddies contains double the calories and twice the saturated fat I know what I'd prefer to eat !!! (most other cereals are just as bad)

A simplistic and wholly misleading post. For a start you have taken adult portion sizes and guidance on healthy eating intended for adults and applied it to minors! Calories are only a concern where a child is already clinically obese and, in any case, neither of the above foods are particularly energy dense. Children require a moderate intake of saturated fats - hence the guidance to give full cream milk in early years.

Secondly you have omitted most of the key nutrients for growth and development - what about fibre, essential fatty acids, vitamins, minerals, protein? What about the additional nutrition supplied by the milk poured over the wholegrain cereal? I am qualified to degree level in nutrition and I consider tinned spaghetti to be nutritionally devoid 'junk food', but wholegrain cereal and milk to be the basis of a balanced and healthy breakfast.