I wish you could sue smokers!

littleowl

I don't believe your original comment mentioned that the 'vices' you supposed people would indulge in were they not to smoke were life-threatening. You seem to imply that smokers would necessarily indulge in wild money spending habits were they not to smoke. A strange point of view.

lightisfading

ladypinkof66 wrote: »

But you cant move away if you sit next to them in work, what do you suggest I sit outside to avoid them or sit on the roof !!!!

Too bl00dy right! My boss smokes and she stinks all the time - to the extent that people subtly move their coats off the coat rack if she puts hers on there.

My biggest bugbear is the inconsiderate gits who think it's perfectly acceptable, when it's hurling it down with rain, to come stand in the bus shelter and light up. So people either have the option of inhaling their crap or getting drenched to the skin.

vyle

lightisfading wrote: »

Too bl00dy right! My boss smokes and she stinks all the time - to the extent that people subtly move their coats off the coat rack if she puts hers on there.

My biggest bugbear is the inconsiderate gits who think it's perfectly acceptable, when it's hurling it down with rain, to come stand in the bus shelter and light up. So people either have the option of inhaling their crap or getting drenched to the skin.

Technically it's illegal to smoke in a bus shelter. I wish I could be bothered to call the police but I know they wouldn't do anything.

bumpoowee

littleowl wrote: »

The health hazards of smoking - or even what is called 'passive smoking' - are NOT proved.

I can't believe anybody in this country can be this ignorant. I hope you don't have kids.

willo65

vyle wrote: »

Technically it's illegal to smoke in a bus shelter. I wish I could be bothered to call the police but I know they wouldn't do anything.

Technically it depends on the style of the bus shelter.

Volcano

vyle wrote: »

I wish I could be bothered to call the police but I know they wouldn't do anything.

Probably because they're not responsible for enforcement, the environmental health department at your council are.

valos_mummy

I'm a little stuck when it comes to the issue. Last year my dad had to go into hospital, within the space of 2 weeks he had been tested and diagnosed with lung cancer, and at the end of those 2 weeks I, my mother, my brother and my sister sat round his bed all night. Helping him when he coughed up mucus, watching him in pain as he had his oxygen mask on, putting on his headphones so he could hear a little radio, trying to hold him gently in bed when he became disorientated and wanted to go outside, watching him fall asleep and then when the morning came, die. He was 63 and had smoked for nearly all his life.

One part of me wants to ban it. Ban it all for good, and woe betide anyone who even touches the stuff for the years its robbed from my father from me. But on the other hand, he chose to smoke. I wish he hadn't, but I couldn't make his decisions for him; in the same way that I can't make anyone else's decisions for them either.

I can't be a crusade against the smokers, I wouldn't comment to them about what they do, unless they were literally blowing smoke right in my face. I have a close mate who has the odd ciggie; she knows about my dad, she knew him for years. And although I may do the odd smiley eye roll when she lights up, she accepts that I will. But she knows I won't ever go on a full on tirade at her, or even disown her as a friend just because she smokes. It's her life and her decision. Unless it gets to a stage where it becomes illegal, it's going to be here to stay.

It's an odd thing; an addictive drug that's treated unlike any other. You say you're addicted to booze - oh that's bad, you need help, you need to stop or you'll die, go to AA. You say you're addicted to drugs - oh that's bad, you need help, you need to stop or you'll die, go to rehab. You say you're addicted to a pack of 20 a day - well, so are other people. You're not actively encouraged to stop unless you really want to stop yourself. Okay, drugs are illegal, but booze isn't. An alcoholic and a serial chain smoker may both be seen as socially unacceptable things, but an alcoholic is usually even more so; although both will lead you to an early grave.

I don't know. That last paragraph was a bit of a ramble. I am definitely anti-smoking given what happened obviously. I'm just not so keen on the whole telling people how to live thing. Like most addictions, the person concerned will only really ever stop when they decide they want to stop for themselves.

larmy16

Volcano wrote: »

I'd imagine the last thing thing they need is to burden their fragile health service with a few million tobacco-induced, diseased citizens.

I would think considering their current situation they would then be burdened with stress induced diseased citizens. Just face it, you don't want to smoke, some people do. Whingeing and whining about it just makes you a sour old puss face. Then you'll have to fork out for botox. What if that goes wrong? You might have to turn to the NHS and use up some of the money that the poor old smoker forked out in taxes.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

missymugwump

We have a major indoor shopping centre in our town adjacent to it is an older open air parade of shops

As you exit the shopping centre (enclosed non smoking) into open area you have without exageration up to twenty people who have stepped out for a ciggie
There is a small overhang that the smokers all stand under

A) It stinks as there is a permanent supply of puffers,fag butts and over flowing ash bins which you have to walk through to leave

There is an independant furnishing fabric and home linens shop at this point,they are losing trade as they are forced to keep their double doors shut or be accused of forcing the staff to passive smoke and having their stock smell,why cant the smokers have the decency to move away from peoples doors ? when this guy goes out of business will they care about the staff he lays off ?
This is not an exageration it is crippling his business the smoke smell is so strong in this area its impregnated

If you have to smoke fine but please dont affect the quality of others lives

Francesanne

Have never smoked in my life and never likely to but do get a little weary of people banging on about cigarette smoke & smokers. Ex smokers tend to be the worst culprits. I wonder if they ever gave a thought to others while they were smoking, I very much doubt it. I have a neighbour whose home could be featured in 'how clean is your house' and he complains about his neighbours smoking because it penerates through the walls into his house (I'm not joking).
I'm much more bothered by the amount of pollution pouring out of bus & car exhausts than the poor devil trying to have a smoke out in the open air.